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ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 31 August 2023, 18:43
by Edified Ed
I lost two tournament games in a row this week largely because five never rolled in either. The odds against that are pretty extreme - anyway else seeing similar behavior?
Re: ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 31 August 2023, 20:22
by GTSchemer
*edit* I looked at the endgame stat screens, but I didn't understand how it was reporting percentages. Sorry about that!
Re: ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 31 August 2023, 20:48
by Jellby
The first one was abandoned early, there were only 11 rolls.
The other two were apparently completed, with 55 and 44 rolls, respectively.
even averaging the roughly 300 rolls together
Common mistake. Those numbers are not total rolls, they're percentages. To see the total rolls you have to add the rolls of each player in the table below.
Re: ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 31 August 2023, 20:56
by GTSchemer
Jellby wrote: ↑31 August 2023, 20:48
The first one was abandoned early, there were only 11 rolls.
The other two were apparently completed, with 55 and 44 rolls, respectively.
even averaging the roughly 300 rolls together
Common mistake. Those numbers are not total rolls, they're percentages. To see the total rolls you have to add the rolls of each player in the table below.
Thanks, I'll edit my post.
*edit* Using a chi-square statistics test on the two games where 5 weren't rolled, the distribution looks reasonable. It's unlucky but possible for 5 not to get rolled.
Re: ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 06 September 2023, 02:57
by Mathew5000
GTSchemer wrote: ↑31 August 2023, 20:22
*edit* I looked at the endgame stat screens, but I didn't understand how it was reporting percentages. Sorry about that!
Here's a proposal I made to rectify this issue:
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=72332
I really wish that the developers would at the very least insert the % symbol beside percentages.
Re: ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 06 September 2023, 03:23
by GTSchemer
Mathew5000 wrote: ↑06 September 2023, 02:57
GTSchemer wrote: ↑31 August 2023, 20:22
*edit* I looked at the endgame stat screens, but I didn't understand how it was reporting percentages. Sorry about that!
Here's a proposal I made to rectify this issue:
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=72332
I really wish that the developers would at the very least insert the % symbol beside percentages.
For reference, are there any other games that use % besides endgame stats? I can't remember any, and I am wondering if it is possible in the BGA framework.
Re: ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 06 September 2023, 04:49
by Meeplelowda
GTSchemer wrote: ↑31 August 2023, 20:56Using a chi-square statistics test on the two games
It's refreshing to see someone actually apply any kind of statistical analysis in one of these riggy threads.
Re: ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 09 September 2023, 17:37
by lolopunzel
Edified Ed wrote: ↑31 August 2023, 18:43
I lost two tournament games in a row this week largely because five never rolled in either. The odds against that are pretty extreme - anyway else seeing similar behavior?
This game is just like that you always cross fingers when your numbers never roll in this

game
Re: ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 10 September 2023, 06:34
by Stroom
lolopunzel wrote: ↑09 September 2023, 17:37
This game is just like that you always cross fingers when your numbers never roll in this

game
Catan is a game based on high randomness. If you don't like it, play any other game. BGA has hundreds of games to offer.
Re: ZERO fives two games in a row
Posted: 10 September 2023, 10:05
by embattled llama
I recently played a game with a very low number of sixes thrown and won as 23 4s were thrown and I was on 4s. Next game I thought that can't happen again so placed two settlements on sixes. Three sixes thrown all game. I did OK but not sure how as I received considerably fewer resources than both other players (probably battering them with the knight to be fair!)
Can anyone recommend a diceless game of a Catan nature, (or a game where you collaborate rather than compete?)
Love Catan, loathe the dice!