Pairs of Clues in games of 3 & 4 - How must the 2 words be?

[Snowcrash000]

While I wholeheartedly agree with everyone saying that giving connected clues is fine and legal, they actually recently added a new line to the rules:

* With three players, both cluing players offer two clues - however, these clues should not be an extension of their other clue (as if playing two words as a single clue).

I have no idea why this was added, as it's not in the original rules, I own a copy of the game, and people have always been playing with connected clues. I say this as someone with 4k ELO and over 500 games played.

[Thomas]

they actually recently added a new line to the rules

Who is "they"? And which rules? The printed rules that are part of a new printrun? Online rules on the publisher website? FAQs? Or BGA tutorial or BGA rule summary? How official is this rule change?

[Jellby]

If you mean the "Rules summary" or "How to play" text, that comes from the wiki and anyone can edit it. You can add that "4-letter words are forbidden" if you like.

[Snowcrash000]

If you mean the "Rules summary" or "How to play" text, that comes from the wiki and anyone can edit it. You can add that "4-letter words are forbidden" if you like.

I don't think that's true? Could you point out to me where the rules summary from BGA appears on the wiki?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_One_(board_game)

[Thomas]

Could you point out to me where the rules summary from BGA appears on the wiki?

BGA has its own wiki, everybody with a BGA account can edit it: https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpjustone

And there are rule summary pages in every supported language: French, Spanish, German, Italian, etc. Each language page may contain different rules.

[Jellby]

I don't think that's true? Could you point out to me where the rules summary from BGA appears on the wiki?

What is not true? That the summary comes from the wiki? It even says so when you open it: "This page comes from BGA wiki, and has been written by BGA players community. Feel free to edit it!" https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpjustone (Note I said "wiki", not "Wikipedia").

That you can add that "4-letter words are forbidden"? You may need to create an account, but I'm sure you can.

That actually 4-letter words are forbidden? Well, certainly not according to the official rules, as far as I know, but that was my point.

[Snowcrash000]

I see, thanks for clearing that up.

[Ze Monstah]

While I wholeheartedly agree with everyone saying that giving connected clues is fine and legal, they actually recently added a new line to the rules:

* With three players, both cluing players offer two clues - however, these clues should not be an extension of their other clue (as if playing two words as a single clue).

I have no idea why this was added, as it's not in the original rules, I own a copy of the game, and people have always been playing with connected clues. I say this as someone with 4k ELO and over 500 games played.

All I can see about 3-players-games clues, on the Just One wiki page (https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpjustone), is this:
"The rules for 3 players do not make any specification whether or not the two clues may extend each other. However, some players prefer not to allow the usage of two words as a single clue, but that rule is not official and should be agreed upon beforehand."

So I assume what you wrote is... from before, and someone edited it?
While for the official rules (https://x.boardgamearena.net/data/rules ... _Rules.pdf, https://cdn.1j1ju.com/medias/1f/0e/8f-j ... lebook.pdf): "During setup, players each take two easels. During the choice of clues, they write one clue on each of their easels. Each player therefore provides 2 clues instead of a single one." So NOTHING about how the clues must be in relation to each other.

Anyway, I am getting a bit tired of people always having an issue with the way me or anyone else prefers to use their 2 clues pairs.
People should focus more on the general knowledge and how to make their clues be less boring and predictable, than on finding an issue against any other different way a player likes to think.

[Snowcrash000]

While I wholeheartedly agree with everyone saying that giving connected clues is fine and legal, they actually recently added a new line to the rules:

* With three players, both cluing players offer two clues - however, these clues should not be an extension of their other clue (as if playing two words as a single clue).

I have no idea why this was added, as it's not in the original rules, I own a copy of the game, and people have always been playing with connected clues. I say this as someone with 4k ELO and over 500 games played.

All I can see about 3-players-games clues, on the Just One wiki page (https://en.doc.boardgamearena.com/Gamehelpjustone), is this:
"The rules for 3 players do not make any specification whether or not the two clues may extend each other. However, some players prefer not to allow the usage of two words as a single clue, but that rule is not official and should be agreed upon beforehand."

So I assume what you wrote is... from before, and someone edited it?
While for the official rules (https://x.boardgamearena.net/data/rules ... _Rules.pdf, https://cdn.1j1ju.com/medias/1f/0e/8f-j ... lebook.pdf): "During setup, players each take two easels. During the choice of clues, they write one clue on each of their easels. Each player therefore provides 2 clues instead of a single one." So NOTHING about how the clues must be in relation to each other.

Anyway, I am getting a bit tired of people always having an issue with the way me or anyone else prefers to use their 2 clues pairs.
People should focus more on the general knowledge and how to make their clues be less boring and predictable, than on finding an issue against any other different way a player likes to think.

Yes, there seems to be a bit of an edit war going on right now, with this line having been edited multiple times lately.

Yes, there is nothing in the official rules concerning whether the two clues can be related or not, thereby it is legal. I had a discussion about this during a game a while ago, where someone refered to the BGG thread below. But obviously this is just the opinion of a few players and not official by any means.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/309119 ... ards-legal

[Hoogard]

It's clearly legal but personally I try to avoid it, I think it's poor taste and against the 'spirit of the game'. It bascially becomes 'just two' instead of 'just one'.