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Is there a way to see how many time left to each players if more than 2 days ?
Posted: 25 October 2023, 09:02
by menettm
I'm playing a TTR game with 4 players (
https://boardgamearena.com/6/tickettori ... =428923379) with 7 days for each players, where one of the player have never played.
This "bad" player is now negative.
The all others players have always in their "
Remaining thinking time for this game" to 7 days.
But how can we know exactly the value with hours and minutes for each player (like we are up to 1 day and 24h) ?
It is a tournament, only the 2 first players will be qualified.
If the "bad" player is expelled/skipped, how can we know before which player will also quit the tournament ?
Re: Is there a way to see how many time left to each players if more than 2 days ?
Posted: 25 October 2023, 10:21
by nik592
If you boot, it will go on seniority (who has the oldest BGA account), if you allow the game to time out (according to the max duration for a table in the tournament), it'll use time remaining, which will vary just slightly between the three of you. You might be able to figure it out by looking at the timestamps, but I'm not aware of any easier way.
Re: Is there a way to see how many time left to each players if more than 2 days ?
Posted: 25 October 2023, 13:07
by menettm
Thanks Nik592,
Like I am the younger (for few days), I will wait more than 3 weeks if the others don't kill the bad player before, or if he returns to life...
It will be nice if we can have a way to know the real time (Hour/minutes) "
Remaining thinking time for this game"...
The information exists but maybe only inside the BGA database.
Best regards
Re: Is there a way to see how many time left to each players if more than 2 days ?
Posted: 25 October 2023, 16:38
by shadowphiar
Wouldn't normally recommend doing this, but for one game you can see it by examining the page's javascript state. This is internal detail and so could change at any time, but... if you go to the game and open a javascript console (depending on your browser and how its set up, you might do this by right-clicking somewhere on the page and choose "Inspect...", then choose the "Console" tab on the screen which appears.) Then, in there type:
gameui.last_server_state.reflexion.total
you will see a list of pairs of numbers, like this: { 84381921: "256942", 84022688: 255987}
Some of them might be in quotes, or not. In each pair, the first is a player id - you can associate the number with each player round the table by clicking their name in the panel and looking at the number at the end of the url on that page. The second number of each pair is the time left, measured in seconds, at the moment the page was generated.
Re: Is there a way to see how many time left to each players if more than 2 days ?
Posted: 26 October 2023, 06:50
by menettm
Thanks Shadowphiar,
I have look the source of the web page with Firefox and I have not found your variable.
The game has ended and looking the player boards, I can always see 7 days for 3 players and -37h58 for the bad player.
In the web page source, I have found a "timeToThink" word for each player in the "player_boards" part,
It looks like that for my part : <span id="timeToThink_92902589" class="timeToThink">--:--</span> (the number is my identifier)
For others players this line is the same, just the number is different.
I'm unhappy, I played 10 months in this tournament (playing 15 games) and I was just eliminated from stage 2 because one of the present qualified players to this stage 2 didn't play the last game at all. He was ejected once his 7 days had passed and I lost with him as a result because the other 2 players were a few days older than me in BGA . :/
Re: Is there a way to see how many time left to each players if more than 2 days ?
Posted: 07 July 2024, 17:11
by treelike
shadowphiar wrote: ↑25 October 2023, 16:38
Wouldn't normally recommend doing this, but for one game you can see it by examining the page's javascript state. This is internal detail and so could change at any time, but... if you go to the game and open a javascript console (depending on your browser and how its set up, you might do this by right-clicking somewhere on the page and choose "Inspect...", then choose the "Console" tab on the screen which appears.) Then, in there type:
gameui.last_server_state.reflexion.total
you will see a list of pairs of numbers, like this: { 84381921: "256942", 84022688: 255987}
Some of them might be in quotes, or not. In each pair, the first is a player id - you can associate the number with each player round the table by clicking their name in the panel and looking at the number at the end of the url on that page. The second number of each pair is the time left, measured in seconds, at the moment the page was generated.
Thank you for this! I wish there was a way to display the exact time without having to go looking for it.
Re: Is there a way to see how many time left to each players if more than 2 days ?
Posted: 07 July 2024, 17:44
by RobertBr
nik592 wrote: ↑25 October 2023, 10:21
If you boot, it will go on seniority (who has the oldest BGA account), ...
This gets repeated a lot but as far as I know there is no evidence for it and plenty of people have reported contrary cases. The logical progression for drawn players to a subsequent round would be flipping a coin, so I cannot imagine any reason without some evidence to not assume that is how it works here (and yes, the using remaining time as tie breaker definitely happens if the game times out, but does not seem to be used when a player is skipped).
Re: Is there a way to see how many time left to each players if more than 2 days ?
Posted: 08 July 2024, 00:38
by nik592
RobertBr wrote: ↑07 July 2024, 17:44
This gets repeated a lot but as far as I know there is no evidence for it and plenty of people have reported contrary cases.
I did some checks on games where it happened for me, and found it to be true. That doesn't mean it is, but I've never seen a contrary case reported either (only people who didn't think that was what happened, but never an actual table where someone said it didn't). I used to think it was entirely random before I was told this, and it's very possible it is (I mean, if you are declaring all other players as tied winners, then it has to be a random pick for who gets to move on in the tournament).