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All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 18 November 2023, 16:54
by Hagardunor
Hello
Pretty good idea to bring this generations old game on BGA.
I browsed through the menu in the lobby, and could not find the option "All Threes" in the
Rule set selection, although it is present in the
Game length selection.
Is it me or has something effectively been forgotten in the selection list ?
By the way, I have also some questions about the game :
- what does "flip Matador" mean ?
- this mention appears when playing : A new round starts and the Boneyard scores 5 points. What consequence Boneyard scoring has on the play ? Where do I find the Boneyard total score during a game ?
Thanks
Re: All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 18 November 2023, 18:43
by ufm
Hagardunor wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 16:54
I browsed through the menu in the lobby, and could not find the option "All Threes" in the
Rule set selection, although it is present in the
Game length selection.
Is it me or has something effectively been forgotten in the selection list ?
Only the scoring option (Threes scoring) is present in custom rule set, as All Threes is not so popular.
However, you can still recreate All Threes by combining the right variants.
Hagardunor wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 16:54
- what does "flip Matador" mean ?
It is a button in Matador. Literally flips Matador's direction.
Hagardunor wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 16:54
- this mention appears when playing : A new round starts and the Boneyard scores 5 points. What consequence Boneyard scoring has on the play ? Where do I find the Boneyard total score during a game ?
Boneyard is the 'opponent' of solo mode. It scores when the player overdraws or when a new round starts. Check player panel.
Re: All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 18 November 2023, 18:57
by Hagardunor
ufm wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 18:43
Hagardunor wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 16:54
I browsed through the menu in the lobby, and could not find the option "All Threes" in the
Rule set selection, although it is present in the
Game length selection.
Is it me or has something effectively been forgotten in the selection list ?
Only the scoring option is present in custom rule set, as All Threes is not so popular.
However, you can still recreate All Threes by combining the right variants.
...
It seems nevertheless unconsistent to me : if you can never select the
All Threes option in
Rule set, you will never need the
All Threes scoring option as well.
One can effectively play with the
All Threes variant through the
Custom variant, but it seems weird to me : why do not add directly
All Threes in the
Rule set ? I fear that present tortuous path will puzzle many players not familiar with dominoes as me
Am I right ?
Re: All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 18 November 2023, 19:21
by ufm
Hagardunor wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 18:57
It seems nevertheless unconsistent to me : if you can never select the
All Threes option in
Rule set, you will never need the
All Threes scoring option as well.
One can effectively play with the
All Threes variant through the
Custom variant, but it seems weird to me : why do not add directly
All Threes in the
Rule set ? I fear that present tortuous path will puzzle many players not familiar with dominoes as me
Am I right ?
The same can be said to Sebastopol, Muggins, Spinner Draw, Spinner Block, Bergen, and etc., then the rule set list will bloat.
The list is designed to reduce player pool split due to variant supports while standardizing the default options presented.
Thus, less popular options had to be trimmed and put into 'Custom' altogether.
You may think this is inconsistent, but this is the conclusion after developing some games with 'too many variants', quoting the players' comments.
Re: All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 19 November 2023, 18:51
by Hagardunor
ufm wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 19:21
Hagardunor wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 18:57
It seems nevertheless unconsistent to me : if you can never select the
All Threes option in
Rule set, you will never need the
All Threes scoring option as well.
One can effectively play with the
All Threes variant through the
Custom variant, but it seems weird to me : why do not add directly
All Threes in the
Rule set ? I fear that present tortuous path will puzzle many players not familiar with dominoes as me
Am I right ?
The same can be said to Sebastopol, Muggins, Spinner Draw, Spinner Block, Bergen, and etc., then the rule set list will bloat.
The list is designed to reduce player pool split due to variant supports while standardizing the default options presented.
Thus, less popular options had to be trimmed and put into 'Custom' altogether.
You may think this is inconsistent, but this is the conclusion after developing some games with 'too many variants', quoting the players' comments.
OK, I understand, thanks
Re: All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 19 November 2023, 18:56
by Hagardunor
Hagardunor wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 16:54
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By the way, I have also some questions about the game :
- what does "flip Matador" mean ?
- this mention appears when playing : A new round starts and the Boneyard scores 5 points. What consequence Boneyard scoring has on the play ? Where do I find the Boneyard total score during a game ?
Thanks
If it's possible could you help me on these questions ?
Re: All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 19 November 2023, 18:59
by Hagardunor
ufm wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 19:21
Hagardunor wrote: ↑18 November 2023, 18:57
It seems nevertheless unconsistent to me : if you can never select the
All Threes option in
Rule set, you will never need the
All Threes scoring option as well.
One can effectively play with the
All Threes variant through the
Custom variant, but it seems weird to me : why do not add directly
All Threes in the
Rule set ? I fear that present tortuous path will puzzle many players not familiar with dominoes as me
Am I right ?
The same can be said to Sebastopol, Muggins, Spinner Draw, Spinner Block, Bergen, and etc., then the rule set list will bloat.
The list is designed to reduce player pool split due to variant supports while standardizing the default options presented.
Thus, less popular options had to be trimmed and put into 'Custom' altogether.
You may think this is inconsistent, but this is the conclusion after developing some games with 'too many variants', quoting the players' comments.
However, i wonder whether the
All Threes scoring will be selected even once as the
Rule set does not exist
Re: All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 19 November 2023, 19:26
by ufm
Hagardunor wrote: ↑19 November 2023, 18:56
If it's possible could you help me on these questions ?
Already answered, see posts above
Hagardunor wrote: ↑19 November 2023, 18:59
However, i wonder whether the
All Threes scoring will be selected even once as the
Rule set does not exist
It has been selected at least once. Same for Sebastopol (First domino of each arm first).
Re: All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 20 November 2023, 18:14
by Hagardunor
ufm wrote: ↑19 November 2023, 19:26
Hagardunor wrote: ↑19 November 2023, 18:56
If it's possible could you help me on these questions ?
Already answered, see posts above
....
My mistake, sorry
Re: All Threes missing in Rule set selection
Posted: 20 November 2023, 18:51
by Hagardunor
ufm wrote: ↑19 November 2023, 19:26
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.... Same for Sebastopol (First domino of each arm first).
Wow ! There is a huge shortcut between the Sebastopol variant I found
here (1) and the
First domino of each arm first selection. Not speaking of the fact that I had no clue at all about the meaning of this selection.
By the way, your comment above helps me much to improve the translation in french which is presently absolutely nonsense.
(1) The 6-6 is played as set. The 6-6 is a spinner and must be played on both ends and both sides, forming a 5-tile cross, before any other tile can be played