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I dont understand ELO points i guess?
Posted: 28 November 2023, 08:30
by Antonfm
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=428606608
why does the second place get a lot more Elo points here? as good as same starting ELO points as the number one. ?
Thanks
Re: I dont understand ELO points i guess?
Posted: 28 November 2023, 08:45
by Ceaseless
You gain and lose more points when you've played less. So someone who has only played a couple of games will have a larger rating change than someone who has played a couple dozen, or hundred, etc.
Re: I dont understand ELO points i guess?
Posted: 28 November 2023, 18:21
by Meeplelowda
This site has a FAQ that is linked to at the bottom of every page. That FAQ has a section about ELO calculation. That section about ELO calculation describes the K factor:
K, the 'elasticity factor,' has a value that depends on the number of games you have played: 60 for your first 10 games, 40 between your 11th and 20th games, 20 for your 21st onwards.
Re: I dont understand ELO points i guess?
Posted: 29 November 2023, 02:30
by Antonfm
thanks

Re: I dont understand ELO points i guess?
Posted: 29 November 2023, 11:41
by pjt33
Meeplelowda wrote: ↑28 November 2023, 18:21
This site has a FAQ that is linked to at the bottom of every page. That FAQ has a section about ELO calculation. That section about ELO calculation describes the K factor:
K, the 'elasticity factor,' has a value that depends on the number of games you have played: 60 for your first 10 games, 40 between your 11th and 20th games, 20 for your 21st onwards.
I think that's out of date, though, because the third place finisher in the linked game had K-factor 13.
Re: I dont understand ELO points i guess?
Posted: 29 November 2023, 15:00
by euklid314
pjt33 wrote: ↑29 November 2023, 11:41
Meeplelowda wrote: ↑28 November 2023, 18:21
This site has a FAQ that is linked to at the bottom of every page. That FAQ has a section about ELO calculation. That section about ELO calculation describes the K factor:
K, the 'elasticity factor,' has a value that depends on the number of games you have played: 60 for your first 10 games, 40 between your 11th and 20th games, 20 for your 21st onwards.
I think that's out of date, though, because the third place finisher in the linked game had K-factor 13.
Further down in the FAQ it is written that the K-factor is further adjusted in multiplayer games. What you cited is valid only for 2-player games...
Re: I dont understand ELO points i guess?
Posted: 30 November 2023, 15:40
by ufm
euklid314 wrote: ↑29 November 2023, 15:00
Further down in the FAQ it is written that the K-factor is further adjusted in multiplayer games. What you cited is valid only for 2-player games...
Multiplayer K factor adjustment applies after K-factor boost. So, K-factor boost is valid in all games.
In this example: normal K factor (12.?) * 3 = boosted K-factor (37.?)