ELO loss after a perfect game
Posted: 04 January 2024, 21:40
Has anyone encountered this? We finished a perfect 30/30 game, no one conceded or left, and at the end I lost 1 ELO point.
Even wth a team mean rating above the highest bot rating for the settings, you shouldn’t lose rating points with a perfect score. According to this:
Right before the game started I made sure to check my ELO rating on the main page, and it went from 820 to 819.Travis Hall wrote: ↑05 January 2024, 00:08 But also, with ELO display currently disabled for Hanabi, how are you sure that this has happened?
It means standard ELO value used until 2019, not BGA value adopted after 2020. So, old 1300 = new 0.Jellby wrote: ↑05 January 2024, 09:21 I suspect the info in the wiki is inaccurate. Maybe written by someone who doesn't really know what's going on (I don't claim I do), or based on an older version. In my experience, at least until the latest "hidden elo" changes, it is always assumed a tie with the bot, perfect score or not. The wiki also says "Hanabot's ELO = 1000 with scores < 18 (5 colours) and < 21 (6 colours)", which doesn't seem correct, maybe it means 100 instead of 1000?
PS. You can get your elo change if you check your elo before and after the game (e.g. in the "old lobby" screen).
2014-11-20T16:27:04 beri changedELO rating
If you are playing with ELO rating on, your ELO may be changed at the end of the game.
Here is how it works:
1) Every player on the team is temporarily considered as having the average ELO rating of the team.
2) The system will generate a bot associated with the score your team has achieved (let’s call it Hanabot). Hanabot’s ELO rating depends on the variant you are playing (50 cards, 60 cards, 60 cards multicolor), the number of players on the team and, most importantly, your team's score. All Hanabot’s ELO ratings have been set by an experienced player, they are not random or simply proportional to the score/number of players.
3) Your team (actually your team's average ELO) will now compete against Hanabot. The system will calculate your team’s ELO gain/loss as though your team had tied with Hanabot. If your score is below 18 (50-card game) or below 21 (60-card game), your team is considered as losing against the weakest Hanabot for this configuration (variant and number of players).
FYI, you can find all ELO ratings here: <link to be inserted>.
The 55-card variant (50 cards + 1 of each value in the sixth colour) cannot be played with ELO rating on. This is because this variant is highly dependent on draw and a team’s score may not always reflect the players’ skills.
A loss (3 Strike tokens) is the same as a score of 0.
If you achieve the perfect score and this should cost you ELO points, you will be considered as having beaten the bot associated with the score, so that you lose no ELO points.
toyour team is considered as losing against the weakest Hanabot for this configuration (variant and number of players).
2017-09-05T20:56:23 Gamersktrashcan addedHanabot's ELO is always 1000.
To be confirmed: I think the ELO-system has had an overhaul.
I've replaced 1000 with 0 on the help page.How did you convert old ELOs into new ones?
If you have 0 games played: new ELO = 0.
If you have more than 4 games played: new ELO = old ELO - 1300, with a minimum of 100.
If you have between 0 and 4 games played: new ELO = old ELO - 1300, with a minimum of 1.