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Tiebreaker - Issue?
Posted: 24 January 2024, 07:19
by neppelj
Can someone explain the tiebreaker rules?
I feel like this game was graded incorrectly based on the rules. Can someone help analyze it for me? If it's a bug, I can report, but figured I'd start here.
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=465667934
Re: Tiebreaker - Issue?
Posted: 24 January 2024, 07:47
by Andrewsmile
Yeah I'm sorry this happened to you, I'd submit a bug report. Rules clearly state that "In the case of a tie, the person who has the most leftover BB wins. If there is still a tie, whoever recruited the most unique position groups wins." You both have 0 BB, yet you have all 8 unique positions while your opponent has only 7 so you should have been declared the winner.
Re: Tiebreaker - Issue?
Posted: 29 January 2024, 05:08
by neppelj
I've now had a 2nd game where the tiebreaker wasn't done correctly.
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=466146349
Re: Tiebreaker - Issue?
Posted: 29 January 2024, 05:47
by Andrewsmile
This one I think is done correctly- rules dictate that if score, BB, and positions are tied the tie is decided by dice roll, i.e. randomly. Since you both have the same score, 0 BB, and all 8 positions the tie is decided by RNG which you (very unluckily) lost.
Re: Tiebreaker - Issue?
Posted: 29 January 2024, 14:32
by neppelj
It never showed a dice roll, how am I to know that?
Re: Tiebreaker - Issue?
Posted: 30 January 2024, 03:58
by Kayvon
It's funny you ask that because I already answered your question in the bug report.
In case you didn't see it, "The roll is included in the tiebreak score, so just look there."
Re: Tiebreaker - Issue?
Posted: 30 January 2024, 15:42
by neppelj
It must be a big dice roll, 8389 vrs 8311. I would think it would say this more clearly somehow.
Re: Tiebreaker - Issue?
Posted: 30 January 2024, 15:56
by Kayvon
If someone didn't know the tiebreak, they could do one or both of the following:
1) Reference the How to Play section at the bottom of each game or the rules themselves
2) Mouseover the tiebreak score to see how tiebreak is determined
#2 is particularly important because it's consistent across all games on BGA. You can always see the tiebreak score when there's a tie. And you can always mouse over to see what it's based on.
I've updated the description to be more explicit. I think it gives you what you're asking for, but your responses to date lead me to suspect that you won't be completely satisfied regardless of how I handle this, so... c'est la vie.
Re: Tiebreaker - Issue?
Posted: 30 January 2024, 18:02
by neppelj
Sounds good and it does help I think, Thanks. Glad this is fixed for all future games.