Board Game Arena

https://boardgamearena.com/gameinprogress?notable suddenly goes to a really cluttered page, stretched across the entire screen with games side by side instead of the old simple vertical list centred on the page. It's horrible to parse quickly compared to the old version. Stupid top banner advertising games I don't want to play and won't ever play fills a chunk of the screen before I even get to my games in progress, which then disappear into more areas of irrelevant information and clutter for tournaments (I'm not playing any, and due to ELO changes, won't take part in).

The side bar menu (from the player avatar icon) is also revised, each game takes up more space, with less useful information visible per game. Icons cover player names, fewer player names (just two) now visible even where the icons are set correctly. It's taken what needs to be a quickly viewed side bar and makes it harder to view. Not the best change tbh.

Why do BGA keep making these "improvements" that actually make using the site worse to use? The new lobby format was not an improvement, and yet you keep pushing on with it across new areas of the site. Who do BGA use for testing groups? Are they regular players with long term site usage? Does their feedback actually get listened to?

The middle click on the games blob (the green/yellow icon next to the friends icon at the top right) no longer links directly to the tables in progress page. At best it opens the side bar, which you then have to go to the bottom of to click "view all tables". Why make the site harder to navigate? I want to see all the games quickly. Not be forced to use a difficult to scroll side bar, which is fine for one or two games in progress but once you get a handful going the main page is far more useful.

I agree, the new layout is absolutely horrible.

You pretty much have the old style, if you;
Use the options to make a 1-column display.
Use the Hide link to take away the recommendations.

There is already a thread about this.

I have added my post to that thread.

The hide button only removes the top banner, it does not get rid of the other clutter, it only creates a centred vertical list for games in progress, the arena and tournaments bars if empty (as mine currently are) are still filled full page width with game advertising I'm not interested in and which dominate the screen. Why can't these be hidden too? The only bit that can be hidden is the top banner and with that hidden more irrelevant visually intrusive "play other games" clutter arrives at the bottom of the screen, so no, it does not get back to the old version, not even close.

Agreed, it just happened to me this morning and I've come straight into here to voice my displeasure with it. I regularly have 20+ turnbased games going. I used to be able to see about that number on one page without scrolling, and even when hitting 50 games in progress the page wasn't hard to parse. Now I can see a grand total of 6 games, or 8 if I use 80% zoom, and that's after hiding things as best as the options let me, and with it set to "small display". LOL who is testing this stuff?

This new version is awful to read. It makes me despair, yet again, of the decision making at BGA. Just like with ELO this feedback will get duly ignored and they will keep pushing out these unpopular lobby and format changes. I already stopped subscribing. I don't know what protest is left other than to leave the site altogether.

RicardoRix wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 09:48 There is already a thread about this.

LesserJester wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 09:51 I have added my post to that thread.

Where is this other thread? I can't find it

KenFin1 wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 10:01 Agreed, it just happened to me this morning and I've come straight into here to voice my displeasure with it. I regularly have 20+ turnbased games going. I used to be able to see about that number on one page without scrolling, and even when hitting 50 games in progress the page wasn't hard to parse. Now I can see a grand total of 6 games, or 8 if I use 80% zoom, and that's after hiding things as best as the options let me, and with it set to "small display". LOL who is testing this stuff?

This new version is awful to read. It makes me despair, yet again, of the decision making at BGA. Just like with ELO this feedback will get duly ignored and they will keep pushing out these unpopular lobby and format changes. I already stopped subscribing. I don't know what protest is left other than to leave the site altogether.

I quite agree.

KenFin1 wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 10:04

RicardoRix wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 09:48 There is already a thread about this.

LesserJester wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 09:51 I have added my post to that thread.

Where is this other thread? I can't find it

I had to search for a while but I presume it's this one: https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... ck#p167941

That's where I reposted my comments anyway.

KenFin1 wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 10:01 Agreed, it just happened to me this morning and I've come straight into here to voice my displeasure with it. I regularly have 20+ turnbased games going. I used to be able to see about that number on one page without scrolling, and even when hitting 50 games in progress the page wasn't hard to parse. Now I can see a grand total of 6 games, or 8 if I use 80% zoom, and that's after hiding things as best as the options let me, and with it set to "small display". LOL who is testing this stuff?

This new version is awful to read. It makes me despair, yet again, of the decision making at BGA. Just like with ELO this feedback will get duly ignored and they will keep pushing out these unpopular lobby and format changes. I already stopped subscribing. I don't know what protest is left other than to leave the site altogether.

You have 10 games, all are visible. 5 standard, 5Arena. Where are you getting 20 from?
There are options available, use them. If the default one doesn't suit you, then try changing them. No-one is saying you're stuck in particular option that is chosen for you.
The list is comparable to the old style. It was not possible to see 20 games without scrolling with the old style.
This is a free community website, YOU are the tester. Pay if you want to.

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RicardoRix wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 10:10

KenFin1 wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 10:01 Agreed, it just happened to me this morning and I've come straight into here to voice my displeasure with it. I regularly have 20+ turnbased games going. I used to be able to see about that number on one page without scrolling, and even when hitting 50 games in progress the page wasn't hard to parse. Now I can see a grand total of 6 games, or 8 if I use 80% zoom, and that's after hiding things as best as the options let me, and with it set to "small display". LOL who is testing this stuff?

This new version is awful to read. It makes me despair, yet again, of the decision making at BGA. Just like with ELO this feedback will get duly ignored and they will keep pushing out these unpopular lobby and format changes. I already stopped subscribing. I don't know what protest is left other than to leave the site altogether.

You've quoted me but made no response?

LesserJester wrote: ↑07 February 2024, 10:07
I had to search for a while but I presume it's this one: https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... ck#p167941

That's where I reposted my comments anyway.

Interesting thanks. I wonder why I didn't see that in the forums lists. I will take a look now.

its awful, terrible colour scheme, all higgeldy piggeldy all over, nothing is clear. but hey, it must be worth the price increases, when is the next one due?