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How can I lose an 1v1 game with a drop of 33 elo?

Posted: 22 March 2024, 15:55
by SkyZerg
My elo was 292 and my opponent's elo was 256 before the game. The game ended 'normally' (no one rage quit or suffer any time penalty). Is there any error in the elo calculation?

https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=490379645

Re: How can I lose an 1v1 game with a drop of 33 elo?

Posted: 22 March 2024, 16:25
by ufm
https://boardgamearena.com/faq?anchor=faq_account_elo

Your K factor (multiplier of ELO points change) triples during your first 10 games for a game.

Re: How can I lose an 1v1 game with a drop of 33 elo?

Posted: 22 March 2024, 18:26
by Jellby
You didn't complain when you got +55 (https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=483806052) or +58 (https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=485059970) for winning 3-player games ;)

Re: How can I lose an 1v1 game with a drop of 33 elo?

Posted: 23 March 2024, 00:27
by KenFin1
Another example of why hiding the Elo calculation is not helpful. The old k factor presentation was more useful. Sadly it was removed in a recent bga "upgrade" that, like other examples, removes useful functionality that users would like to see put back.

Re: How can I lose an 1v1 game with a drop of 33 elo?

Posted: 23 March 2024, 08:02
by SkyZerg
Jellby wrote: 22 March 2024, 18:26 You didn't complain when you got +55 (https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=483806052) or +58 (https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=485059970) for winning 3-player games ;)
Because being the first in a 3-player game is counted as winning 2 1v1 matchup. The elo increase is expected to be higher

Re: How can I lose an 1v1 game with a drop of 33 elo?

Posted: 23 March 2024, 08:05
by SkyZerg
ufm wrote: 22 March 2024, 16:25 https://boardgamearena.com/faq?anchor=faq_account_elo

Your K factor (multiplier of ELO points change) triples during your first 10 games for a game.
Oh I see. Thank you for your information!

Re: How can I lose an 1v1 game with a drop of 33 elo?

Posted: 23 March 2024, 08:57
by Jellby
SkyZerg wrote: 23 March 2024, 08:02 Because being the first in a 3-player game is counted as winning 2 1v1 matchup. The elo increase is expected to be higher
Yes, but 58/2 = 29, which is close enough to 33. You won/lost a similar amount of elo per opponent when you won/lost the game.

In any case, as others have pointed out the answer is the "elasticity (K) factor"