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First player advantage

Posted: 16 April 2024, 13:26
by doolee_d
Am I the only person who thinks that in 7 wonders duel (without expansions) the first player has a huge advantage?

In these games the first player usually controls the whole phase 1, if the second player does not build a wonder which affords him to take two turns one after another, but the second player does this, looses a critical wonder's effect for the final stage of the game.

Could we take this advantage away somehow? What strategies are the best for the second player?
When I play this game on BGA, in the 90% of the games (I easily go 7-8 straight games like this), I am the second player (don't know how can this happen, it should be 50-50, but that's my "luck"), and i feel that most of my defeats came from that only reason that I am not the starting player.

Thank you in advance!

Re: First player advantage

Posted: 17 April 2024, 10:42
by tony97
doolee_d wrote: 16 April 2024, 13:26 Am I the only person who thinks that in 7 wonders duel (without expansions) the first player has a huge advantage?

In these games the first player usually controls the whole phase 1, if the second player does not build a wonder which affords him to take two turns one after another, but the second player does this, looses a critical wonder's effect for the final stage of the game.

Could we take this advantage away somehow? What strategies are the best for the second player?
When I play this game on BGA, in the 90% of the games (I easily go 7-8 straight games like this), I am the second player (don't know how can this happen, it should be 50-50, but that's my "luck"), and i feel that most of my defeats came from that only reason that I am not the starting player.

Thank you in advance!
Thanks for your post and ideas, but there is a whole discussion on the forum about that..... Maybe just go look?

Re: First player advantage

Posted: 17 April 2024, 10:46
by tony97
Also there is a major thread on why arena without expansions is (probably) worse than with both expansions - and first player advantage being present in one but not the other is a factor.