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RoyalRook
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Re: Best and Worst Corps discussion

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Who do you guys think has higher ceiling? Inventrix or UNMI? If with the right setup UNMI could dominate, though it's a much weaker corp even comparing to Inventrix, should it be ranked higher than Inventrix because of higher ceiling in 3p? Do you agree that Thorgate is ranked higher than Phoblog?
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Re: Best and Worst Corps discussion

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RoyalRook wrote: 03 July 2024, 14:45 Who do you guys think has higher ceiling? Inventrix or UNMI? If with the right setup UNMI could dominate, though it's a much weaker corp even comparing to Inventrix, should it be ranked higher than Inventrix because of higher ceiling in 3p? Do you agree that Thorgate is ranked higher than Phoblog?
I wouldn't rate thorgate higher unless you're playing with colonies which hasn't been implemented here yet.
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Phobolog cannot really be evaluated independent of start cards. It is good with suitable cards, and will not be chosen without them.

UNMI is generally better at higher player counts. At 4p I would probably choose it over Inventrix or Thorgate, other things being equal.

Inventrix is a gamble. It can be good if you have a good science start, or if you jackpot on the 3 cards.
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Draffut wrote: 03 July 2024, 17:17 I wouldn't rate thorgate higher unless you're playing with colonies which hasn't been implemented here yet.
Thorgate can be very powerful in none corp era, you go builder and use power as heat. Before you know it, you can get +20 MC from the energy tag discounts. I fondly treating Thorgate as the trash collector of TM, where it turns other people's garbage into gold.
nanospy wrote: 03 July 2024, 18:44 Phobolog cannot really be evaluated independent of start cards. It is good with suitable cards, and will not be chosen without them.

UNMI is generally better at higher player counts. At 4p I would probably choose it over Inventrix or Thorgate, other things being equal.

Inventrix is a gamble. It can be good if you have a good science start, or if you jackpot on the 3 cards.
For none corp era you can definitely play Phoblog without a single space card in hand, the deck is so lean, you are bound to get something in the coming drafts. And it's science game is surprisingly strong, since both Phoblog and IC can often simply bloat up their deck and waiting for better combo to unleash, I see plenty of Planner line works out for Phoblog. You should never play 4p, the game is not well designed for more than 3p. Don't waste your time on 4p settings if your goal is to learn and get better understanding of TM.
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Corbz wrote: 02 July 2024, 19:18
cranesflyhigh wrote: 02 July 2024, 17:04 I am unsure what is complicated about Teractor and Saturn Systems to make them corp era. Anyway I do hope for a better arena ruleset. The current one kinda sux.
Terractor isn't in Non-Corp era because there are barely any Earth tags and Saturn Systems because there are only 4 Jovians and no mults.
Ah that makes sense. I think I have only played non corp era once as I wasn't properly looking at the settings and we still abandoned it. It takes out some of the most fun cards and the free prod to start with feels like an insult.
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RoyalRook wrote: 03 July 2024, 14:45 Who do you guys think has higher ceiling? Inventrix or UNMI? If with the right setup UNMI could dominate, though it's a much weaker corp even comparing to Inventrix, should it be ranked higher than Inventrix because of higher ceiling in 3p? Do you agree that Thorgate is ranked higher than Phoblog?
UNMI has a dream for sure, but most of the time I would rather pick Inventrix as UNMI needs a really specific starting hand. Inventrix is a generic corp with one of the best tags and an ability that potentially can save a disastrous starting hand. Thorgate is the worst corp in the game imo (I hear it is good in Colonies, but that changes the game quite a lot). Only pick it if it is something like Phobolog with zero steel targets or have a neat play like gen1 strip mine.
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Re: Best and Worst Corps discussion

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RoyalRook wrote: 03 July 2024, 19:34For none corp era you can definitely play Phoblog without a single space card in hand, the deck is so lean, you are bound to get something in the coming drafts. And it's science game is surprisingly strong, since both Phoblog and IC can often simply bloat up their deck and waiting for better combo to unleash, I see plenty of Planner line works out for Phoblog. You should never play 4p, the game is not well designed for more than 3p. Don't waste your time on 4p settings if your goal is to learn and get better understanding of TM.
I prefer 4p over 2p. 4p allows for more specialization. At 2p there is too much time, and can end up with bloated engines that do everything, which is less interesting.
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nanospy wrote: 08 July 2024, 14:06
RoyalRook wrote: 03 July 2024, 19:34For none corp era you can definitely play Phoblog without a single space card in hand, the deck is so lean, you are bound to get something in the coming drafts. And it's science game is surprisingly strong, since both Phoblog and IC can often simply bloat up their deck and waiting for better combo to unleash, I see plenty of Planner line works out for Phoblog. You should never play 4p, the game is not well designed for more than 3p. Don't waste your time on 4p settings if your goal is to learn and get better understanding of TM.
I prefer 4p over 2p. 4p allows for more specialization. At 2p there is too much time, and can end up with bloated engines that do everything, which is less interesting.
In my experience it is very rarely the case that it is engine fiesta in 2p. It is generally more that 1 player plays the terraformer and the other goes for some sort of engine.
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I dislike the kingmaking and spite plays in 3p and 4p. I prefer 2p; if we must then I would play 3p amongst known friends who play 'normal rational behavioural strategy profiles' etc. . In 2p; if you lost to someone's engine and you were trying to get an engine too; your strategy was flawed from the start. 2p is much more deterministic than 3p and above.
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My favorite company is Zhang Sheng Mars. First of all, its economy is very good. Secondly, its house cards reduce the cost. I think it is very suitable for novices to play.
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