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BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 25 April 2024, 13:05
by himynameiseric
The games on here play completely different than in real life. Especially on the games that you draw cards. Playing the games in real life occasionally you draw the same card over and over. Or get what seems like sabotaged by the cards. On BGA it seems to happen about every 3rd game. Same with the dice. They just don’t roll naturally at all it seems. Maybe I’m crazy. But to me games play completely different on here.

Re: BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 25 April 2024, 14:10
by Tisaac
himynameiseric wrote: 25 April 2024, 13:05 The games on here play completely different than in real life. Especially on the games that you draw cards. Playing the games in real life occasionally you draw the same card over and over. Or get what seems like sabotaged by the cards. On BGA it seems to happen about every 3rd game. Same with the dice. They just don’t roll naturally at all it seems. Maybe I’m crazy. But to me games play completely different on here.
It's just the usual confirmation bias. Interestingly enough, it's the complete opposite of the usual "dice/cards are rigged because the result are not uniform enough".

Re: BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 25 April 2024, 14:21
by Hervor
Of course it is rigged. They even admitted it when they announced, that they would replicate rigged dice for premium members in their physical board game arena cafe. I can't quite remember the date of the announcement .... :roll:

Re: BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 25 April 2024, 14:32
by GTSchemer
The random number generator used is very straightforward, and its output has been repeatedly verified to fit the expected curve over a large number of results.

If you are familiar with statistical curve-fitting and have a proposed test, feel free to suggest it -- it's easy to validate.

Re: BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 25 April 2024, 15:47
by Jellby
himynameiseric wrote: 25 April 2024, 13:05 The games on here play completely different than in real life.
Of course, card shuffles and dice rolls in real life are not random, they are determined by basic physics and human inefficiency.

Re: BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 25 April 2024, 16:15
by buu441
Yeah I think you just need to pay for premium to get better dice rolls and card draws.

Re: BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 25 April 2024, 16:19
by GTSchemer
Since it is the internet, and people of all languages read posts here, sarcasm may be hard to interpret. To avoid confusion:
Hervor wrote: 25 April 2024, 14:21 Of course it is rigged. They even admitted it when they announced, that they would replicate rigged dice for premium members in their physical board game arena cafe. I can't quite remember the date of the announcement .... :roll:
This person is being sarcastic. They are talking about an April Fools joke.
buu441 wrote: 25 April 2024, 16:15 Yeah I think you just need to pay for premium to get better dice rolls and card draws.
This person is also probably being sarcastic. Exactly the same random function is called, no matter whether you are premium or free.

Re: BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 25 April 2024, 18:06
by Lunalol
BGA pay people to roll real dices each time you are playing and Earth is fat :ugeek:

Re: BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 26 April 2024, 05:54
by Cile
himynameiseric wrote: 25 April 2024, 13:05 The games on here play completely different than in real life. Especially on the games that you draw cards. Playing the games in real life occasionally you draw the same card over and over. Or get what seems like sabotaged by the cards. On BGA it seems to happen about every 3rd game. Same with the dice. They just don’t roll naturally at all it seems. Maybe I’m crazy. But to me games play completely different on here.
So what are you proposing? That whomever programmed the game went through the extra effort of making it appear random while not actually being random (Not an easy task and a lot of extra work)? Or that the RND(x) function is insufficiently random?

Either way I would like to see the data set you are using as evidence for this.

Re: BGAs random number generator is unrealistic.

Posted: 26 April 2024, 09:19
by OwnerOfTheIronThrone
Jellby wrote: 25 April 2024, 15:47
Of course, card shuffles and dice rolls in real life are not random, they are determined by basic physics and human inefficiency.
RNG only mimics randomness while actually being a predetermined function that tries to give random results. Dice rolls and good shuffle are closer to random then rng.

Not to say anything is rigged, but we can't actually create randomness, can we?