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Endorsed Fission

Posted: 21 June 2024, 13:04
by gozik
Something unexpected happen in this game: https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=527940557

In the very end I endorsed to play Fission.
First draw was a red card and everything was removed as expected.
But then I draw 10 as part of second non-demand dogma.

The card prescribe to finish "dogma action" as part of demand part.
I'm not sure how it relates to "endorse action" and if second dogma should apply in case of armagedon (I think not).
Is it a bug or that should work this way?

Fission text for reference:
> I DEMAND you draw a 10! If it is red, remove all hands, boards, and score piles from the game! If this occurs, the dogma action is complete.
> Return a top card other than Fission from any player board. Draw a 10.

Re: Endorsed Fission

Posted: 22 June 2024, 23:31
by jacksonmead
I think this is pretty clearly a bug. You should file a bug report.

Re: Endorsed Fission

Posted: 25 June 2024, 11:55
by gozik
I agree that most probabbly that would match intent of game authors.
But as it written down I cannot see why Fission should end Endorse action.
Endorse action and Dogma action are two different entities in rulebook and there is nothing that points on some form of their inheritance.

From that perspective I should have two 10s in the end, lol

Re: Endorsed Fission

Posted: 25 June 2024, 12:36
by Micah Stairs
I believe that in 3rd edition they are separate actions but in Ultimate edition it might be changing to be a sub action.

Re: Endorsed Fission

Posted: 25 June 2024, 12:47
by jacksonmead
It looks like the new rules define Endorse as a modifier on Dogma. From the wording there, it seems pretty clear to me that it's a single Dogma action that is being doubled.

Re: Endorsed Fission

Posted: 25 June 2024, 13:18
by gozik
Good to know, I haven't checked the new rules yet. (can we have them in attached to game documents?)