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Undo last action?
Posted: 22 August 2024, 01:51
by GiannisIsTheBeast
Many times I’ve made a slight mistake on the last move I made. The only way to undo it is to start the whole turn over. This requires me to remember all the other moves I made as well as wastes time having to do everything again. It would be more useful to have an undo last move/action vs restarting a turn. I’m guessing restarting the turn is easier to code but it would be more useful to keep track of the actions and allow you to undo each one.
EDIT:
Bug for this problem:
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=136327
Re: Undo last action?
Posted: 22 August 2024, 02:15
by ufm
Re: Undo last action?
Posted: 22 August 2024, 04:09
by GiannisIsTheBeast
Perhaps if the issue keeps coming up they will reconsider. Just in 2 player games, it probably extends each game by several minutes… having to redo the actions you meant to finally get to redo the action you need to correct. I get it might be harder to code since in my day job I’m a developer as well but it just doesn’t seem that much harder of a concept. In real life you don’t have to reset all your pieces in order to correct a move.
Re: Undo last action?
Posted: 23 August 2024, 09:51
by Hummingbelle
I know it’s been discussed with the publisher and that they do not wish to add this possibility. But I also think this would make playing the game more enjoyable on BGA. It’s quite frustrating when on the last move of your turn you notice you haven’t placed your piece in an optimal position and you have to start all over. Especially when, if you would be playing in real life, this wouldn’t be a big issue and it could be fixed in a matter of seconds… this majorly slows down the game when playing in real time and it sadly puts me off from playing more often.
So I guess I’m commenting in the hope they’ll rethink if enough players wish this feature to be added
Re: Undo last action?
Posted: 23 August 2024, 12:33
by tchobello
GiannisIsTheBeast wrote: ↑22 August 2024, 04:09
Perhaps if the issue keeps coming up they will reconsider. Just in 2 player games, it probably extends each game by several minutes… having to redo the actions you meant to finally get to redo the action you need to correct. I get it might be harder to code since in my day job I’m a developer as well but it just doesn’t seem that much harder of a concept. In real life you don’t have to reset all your pieces in order to correct a move.
it's not especially harder but we can't assist players all the time...
An undo mode has been implemented and they are now asking for another one because "it's annoying to restart from start"...
Re: Undo last action?
Posted: 24 August 2024, 05:42
by GiannisIsTheBeast
How was the undo method selected? One person making the choice? Was a poll conducted? Were alpha testers asked what they think would be good? Whoever made the choice clearly hasn’t played the game much yet on BGA or they would be annoyed as well. or perhaps they are the expert and don’t need undo features.
I’ve had to redo things a few times in the past for my job when what was implemented is not what was/is desired. It isn’t ideal but it’s just what happens in software development.
Don’t get me wrong though, I love the game and its implementation otherwise. I’d rather just be playing more games of it instead of redoing things I already did.
Re: Undo last action?
Posted: 24 August 2024, 08:47
by tchobello
GiannisIsTheBeast wrote: ↑24 August 2024, 05:42
How was the undo method selected? One person making the choice? Was a poll conducted? Were alpha testers asked what they think would be good? Whoever made the choice clearly hasn’t played the game much yet on BGA or they would be annoyed as well. or perhaps they are the expert and don’t need undo features.
I’ve had to redo things a few times in the past for my job when what was implemented is not what was/is desired. It isn’t ideal but it’s just what happens in software development.
Don’t get me wrong though, I love the game and its implementation otherwise. I’d rather just be playing more games of it instead of redoing things I already did.
If I remember correctly, there is already an undo feature... they're just asking for another one because of laziness.
Assistance has some limits too.
Re: Undo last action?
Posted: 24 August 2024, 22:50
by GiannisIsTheBeast
Not really laziness, it would be a better user experience and it saves time.
Re: Undo last action?
Posted: 25 August 2024, 03:57
by SleepyLibrarian
I'm really surprised the publisher vetoed this. It seems like a no-brainer for better gameplay. Especially when on mobile, it's very easy to accidentally put down a tile on the wrong space, and then everyone has to wait while you correct your entire move.
Re: Undo last action?
Posted: 30 August 2024, 03:25
by evuill18
I, too, would like an "undo last move" kind of button. Or even a " see confirmed moves only" option when setting up the game...