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You shouldn't be able to kick if you are over time
Posted: 04 September 2024, 15:43
by RamuneGuy
Been in too many games where other people in the game are also "over-time". You think there's a mutual agreement to keep playing so you play on. But right on the cusp of winning, they kick you a second after they end their own turn.
Yes I know about slower games and time jokers. Still doesn't prevent this from being a problem.
Re: You shouldn't be able to kick if you are over time
Posted: 04 September 2024, 20:58
by CharlesRDarwin
Propaganda Panda once said that in one of his first games, in the last turn of his game, his opponent went over time and he left it because it was the last turn of the game. The opponent then kicked Panda out when he was a second over, to secure the win.
I kick players out as soon as they go over time, for several reasons (where is the line if not the time limit? They may go even more over in future moves since they've run out of "bank"). But I know many others disagree with this philosophy.
Not being able to kick out if you go over is an interesting compromise. What happens when both go over and one player takes a three week break?
Re: You shouldn't be able to kick if you are over time
Posted: 05 September 2024, 03:00
by danielvictor
Ok,how about ''the player who is most over time cannot kick the other player'.
Re: You shouldn't be able to kick if you are over time
Posted: 06 September 2024, 22:17
by RamuneGuy
CharlesRDarwin wrote: ↑04 September 2024, 20:58
Propaganda Panda once said that in one of his first games, in the last turn of his game, his opponent went over time and he left it because it was the last turn of the game. The opponent then kicked Panda out when he was a second over, to secure the win.
I kick players out as soon as they go over time, for several reasons (where is the line if not the time limit? They may go even more over in future moves since they've run out of "bank"). But I know many others disagree with this philosophy.
Not being able to kick out if you go over is an interesting compromise. What happens when both go over and one player takes a three week break?
I think it is a bit Draconian to kick immediately after someone goes overtime. We are human and life happens. Maybe it is an emergency, or maybe you are travelling longer than intended. I think it is OK to make exceptions. Especially when you are playing with people all over the world, it is natural for time zones to not line up.
Sometimes people have left messages in chat because they are travelling, but only for a little bit - so they don't want to be using a time joker. I understand that. And I think most people are gracious enough to understand that.
I think I am more against the abuse of the system where people deliberately time out the kick timer to secure wins in games that they would otherwise lose. I think it is very much against the spirit of the game. The ELO system has a tendency to make monsters out of people.
At the end of the day, I just want to play a game and have fun.
Re: You shouldn't be able to kick if you are over time
Posted: 06 September 2024, 22:54
by CharlesRDarwin
RamuneGuy wrote: ↑06 September 2024, 22:17
CharlesRDarwin wrote: ↑04 September 2024, 20:58
Propaganda Panda once said that in one of his first games, in the last turn of his game, his opponent went over time and he left it because it was the last turn of the game. The opponent then kicked Panda out when he was a second over, to secure the win.
I kick players out as soon as they go over time, for several reasons (where is the line if not the time limit? They may go even more over in future moves since they've run out of "bank"). But I know many others disagree with this philosophy.
Not being able to kick out if you go over is an interesting compromise. What happens when both go over and one player takes a three week break?
I think it is a bit Draconian to kick immediately after someone goes overtime. We are human and life happens. Maybe it is an emergency, or maybe you are travelling longer than intended. I think it is OK to make exceptions. Especially when you are playing with people all over the world, it is natural for time zones to not line up.
Sometimes people have left messages in chat because they are travelling, but only for a little bit - so they don't want to be using a time joker. I understand that. And I think most people are gracious enough to understand that.
I think I am more against the abuse of the system where people deliberately time out the kick timer to secure wins in games that they would otherwise lose. I think it is very much against the spirit of the game. The ELO system has a tendency to make monsters out of people.
At the end of the day, I just want to play a game and have fun.
There's been a million threads about this. Many on our your side, many are not. I'm not.
Re: You shouldn't be able to kick if you are over time
Posted: 07 September 2024, 07:51
by Jellby
You shouldn't be able to checkmate your opponent if your opponent missed an opportunity to checkmate you?
Re: You shouldn't be able to kick if you are over time
Posted: 09 September 2024, 10:24
by danielvictor
IMO,the system shouldn't allow you to kick an opponent for being over time, if you are more over time than they are.
Re: You shouldn't be able to kick if you are over time
Posted: 09 September 2024, 15:43
by RamuneGuy
Jellby wrote: ↑07 September 2024, 07:51
You shouldn't be able to checkmate your opponent if your opponent missed an opportunity to checkmate you?
Going over time is checkmate?
Sounds good bud. We're not playing speed chess.
Re: You shouldn't be able to kick if you are over time
Posted: 09 September 2024, 15:54
by Jellby
RamuneGuy wrote: ↑09 September 2024, 15:43
Going over time is checkmate?
No, it's giving your opponent(s) the chance to checkmate you.