Board Game Arena

The current Arena system, where you cannot fall out of a tier (Silver, Gold, etc) once reached, results in anyone being able to reach Elite by playing enough volume. When literal 100 ELO players can reach Elite, what is the point of having tiers? The Elite tier should represent high-quality gameplay, not high-volume gameplay.

There should be a minimum Elite score required to stay in Elite, or Elite should represent the top X% of players in that season.

Priptonite wrote: ↑07 November 2024, 21:52 The current Arena system, where you cannot fall out of a tier (Silver, Gold, etc) once reached, results in anyone being able to reach Elite by playing enough volume. When literal 100 ELO players can reach Elite, what is the point of having tiers? The Elite tier should represent high-quality gameplay, not high-volume gameplay.

There should be a minimum Elite score required to stay in Elite, or Elite should represent the top X% of players in that season.

Because BGA determined a while ago that the player base's ego is too fragile to see evidence that they are not as good as they think they are. Hence things like the 100 ELO floor.

Once in elite it’s then possible to assess performance by the Arena version of ELO, so there is some stratification. To get to elite a player needs to string together at least two consecutive wins, and likely three or possible four, in order to get promoted a level. And then repeat for up to five levels. I agree that quantity of play is also a factor however some ability is still required. Games with more luck will see even average ELO players (100-199) string wins together.

If there was a setting to limit your game searches to opponents of a certain Elite score then the current system would be okay, but you can only limit by tier. When anyone can make it to Elite, limiting your game search to Elite only is pointless.

Once a player makes it to Elite then any further Arena ELO progress can be achieved against players at any Arena level. It will be based on the underlying Arena ELO differentials. Although players below Elite won’t know or see theirs, or for it to be visible to others. When I reach Elite I turn off filtering by opponents levels as I’m no longer climbing through levels.

JohnnyCyclops wrote: ↑08 November 2024, 14:53 Once a player makes it to Elite then any further Arena ELO progress can be achieved against players at any Arena level. It will be based on the underlying Arena ELO differentials. Although players below Elite won’t know or see theirs, or for it to be visible to others. When I reach Elite I turn off filtering by opponents levels as I’m no longer climbing through levels.

Yes and this is not what Prip wants. Prip wants to be able to filter by, say, only 1650+ EAS or something like that, which you can't currently do.

I think a solution that includes the Arena ranking s a good one which doesn't affect the league structure, and is simply another filter.

It would make sense if +/- n levels restrictions for Arena translated to +/- n*100 EAS once you reach Elite. Ideally, it should match players in any other league as long as their (possibly hidden) EAS is within range.