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where are the catan developers?

Posted: 16 November 2024, 17:09
by yfimc
there are several bug reports where catan games are completely inaccessible, some of which have been reported over a month ago, but there’s been no developer response or comment. i wonder if anyone with any permissions on the site is even reading the reports?

Re: where are the catan developers?

Posted: 16 November 2024, 17:15
by bvibum
Sadly I think this is the new normal. Nearly all games I play on BGA have some type of issue. BGA has severe financial trouble, at least from what I’ve been able to find online, and likely is unable to devote the needed resources to address bug issues. Have you noticed most of the new games offered are simplistic, low level card games? Easiest to convert to online.

Re: where are the catan developers?

Posted: 16 November 2024, 17:26
by Lilly-Fee
Habe ich auch gelesen dass Asmodee in 3 Firmen aufgeteilt werden soll und mit 18 Millionen Schulden startet. Zeigt auch die viele Werbung. Mal sehen was im April passiert. Da soll es ja über die Bühne gehen.

Re: where are the catan developers?

Posted: 16 November 2024, 19:15
by GTSchemer
One of the developers is the BGA site owner, so I assume he has no time for bug management.

The other developer is active, but I know nothing about the tables you mention.

Can you please make a list of specific tables that are blocked, so they can be investigated?

Re: where are the catan developers?

Posted: 16 November 2024, 20:19
by yfimc
currently happening on my tournament table 582287492

these are some of the bug reports, they each list one or more games in the comments, i'm not sure which are still active:

https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=142896
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=145209
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=142764
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=145198
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=142622

one person in commented on a bug the following
Data in Google Chrome developer console:

Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'lumber')
at cat_game.js:254:31
at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
at Object.offersAlign (cat_game.js:248:26)
at Object.updateActiveTrades (catan.js:1:68271)
at Object.enterState_playerTurn (catan.js:1:30872)
at Object.onEnteringState (catan.js:1:27988)
at Object.completesetup (ly_studio.js:1:499591)
at catan?table=587898848:3016:28

Re: where are the catan developers?

Posted: 16 November 2024, 20:32
by RobertBr
bvibum wrote: 16 November 2024, 17:15 Sadly I think this is the new normal. Nearly all games I play on BGA have some type of issue. BGA has severe financial trouble, at least from what I’ve been able to find online, and likely is unable to devote the needed resources to address bug issues.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the BGA model. BGA does not develop games, it provides a platform for others to develop games. This has always caused problems with volunteer developers having insufficient time to work on games. The only thing that BGA could do, would be to roll back access to insufficiently supported games, but because, like you, most players do not understand what is happening, that would be terrible for business as BGA would then be blamed for 'taking the game away' (probably with conspiracy theories about trying to harm certain game companys).

Re: where are the catan developers?

Posted: 16 November 2024, 22:52
by GTSchemer
yfimc wrote: 16 November 2024, 20:19 currently happening on my tournament table 582287492

these are some of the bug reports, they each list one or more games in the comments, i'm not sure which are still active:

https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=142896
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=145209
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=142764
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=145198
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=142622

one person in commented on a bug the following
Data in Google Chrome developer console:

Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'lumber')
at cat_game.js:254:31
at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
at Object.offersAlign (cat_game.js:248:26)
at Object.updateActiveTrades (catan.js:1:68271)
at Object.enterState_playerTurn (catan.js:1:30872)
at Object.onEnteringState (catan.js:1:27988)
at Object.completesetup (ly_studio.js:1:499591)
at catan?table=587898848:3016:28
Many thanks.

Re: where are the catan developers?

Posted: 16 November 2024, 23:08
by yfimc
GTSchemer wrote: 16 November 2024, 22:52 Many thanks.
Thank you!!

Re: where are the catan developers?

Posted: 17 November 2024, 01:19
by bvibum
RobertBr wrote: 16 November 2024, 20:32
bvibum wrote: 16 November 2024, 17:15 Sadly I think this is the new normal. Nearly all games I play on BGA have some type of issue. BGA has severe financial trouble, at least from what I’ve been able to find online, and likely is unable to devote the needed resources to address bug issues.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the BGA model. BGA does not develop games, it provides a platform for others to develop games. This has always caused problems with volunteer developers having insufficient time to work on games. The only thing that BGA could do, would be to roll back access to insufficiently supported games, but because, like you, most players do not understand what is happening, that would be terrible for business as BGA would then be blamed for 'taking the game away' (probably with conspiracy theories about trying to harm certain game companys).

Re: where are the catan developers?

Posted: 17 November 2024, 07:13
by Meeplelowda
bvibum wrote: 17 November 2024, 01:19
RobertBr wrote: 16 November 2024, 20:32
bvibum wrote: 16 November 2024, 17:15 Sadly I think this is the new normal. Nearly all games I play on BGA have some type of issue. BGA has severe financial trouble, at least from what I’ve been able to find online, and likely is unable to devote the needed resources to address bug issues.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the BGA model. BGA does not develop games, it provides a platform for others to develop games. This has always caused problems with volunteer developers having insufficient time to work on games. The only thing that BGA could do, would be to roll back access to insufficiently supported games, but because, like you, most players do not understand what is happening, that would be terrible for business as BGA would then be blamed for 'taking the game away' (probably with conspiracy theories about trying to harm certain game companys).
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