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Ranking points between partners
Posted: 04 December 2024, 23:26
by Ged54
Currently ranking points are awarded or deducted at the end of a game based on the point differential between partners. Since a player is not competing with their partner this practice makes no sense. The rule should be redesigned to make partner "ties" neutral.
Re: Ranking points between partners
Posted: 05 December 2024, 02:46
by ufm
Re: Ranking points between partners
Posted: 23 December 2024, 00:13
by excalabur
Despite the bug report, it's clearly possible to neutralise ranking points between teammates: nanatoridori does this properly. Euchre has a closed bug report claiming it's not.
I think the upshot is that developer studio is poorly documented.
Re: Ranking points between partners
Posted: 23 December 2024, 04:22
by ufm
Warning: This modifier should not be applied to co-op games or games where 3 or more parties can compete each other (e.g. individual mode with 3 or more players, 2v2v2 6 player mode, and etc.).
Re: Ranking points between partners
Posted: 24 December 2024, 23:13
by excalabur
None of those conditions seem to apply? (Unless there's some weird non-partner option.) 2v2 is exactly the situation where it *should* be applied.
Re: Ranking points between partners
Posted: 25 December 2024, 03:15
by ufm
The game supports 3 player mode as well.
Re: Ranking points between partners
Posted: 25 December 2024, 18:47
by excalabur
Then don't set the teammate flag in 3p mode? That seems like it should be possible if implementation wasn't botched on BGA's side. Certainly there has to be some way to set it differently for different player counts.
Frankly, no one seems to play 3p. For me, if it's one or the other, I'd rather have the Elo calculation work properly than have 3p mode. I don't know if you can check the stats on how many 3p games people play.
Re: Ranking points between partners
Posted: 26 December 2024, 02:34
by ufm
excalabur wrote: ↑25 December 2024, 18:47
Then don't set the teammate flag in 3p mode? That seems like it should be possible if implementation wasn't botched on BGA's side. Certainly there has to be some way to set it differently for different player counts.
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. I would've done so if it were possible.
Also, only admins can set the flag on. I'll send a request again (yes, I requested this before, but it was somehow ignored).
Re: Ranking points between partners
Posted: 31 December 2024, 19:59
by excalabur
That's baffling--there's tons of games which have teammates at some but not all options/player counts. GL!
Re: Ranking points between partners
Posted: 14 January 2025, 17:51
by ufm
Received a reply from the admins.
As expected, I had to remove 3p mode, but it is a fair trade in this case I guess.
I just checked the numbers, and the percentage of 3p tables was actually 1%.
Some of my other games received the same treatment: 42 and Pinochle.