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Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 03 February 2025, 13:20
by peggy0221
Re: Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 03 February 2025, 13:41
by nccc
Conceding does NOT affect elo outcome.
Re: Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 03 February 2025, 14:35
by peggy0221
Really? that's nice to know ... thanks for the clarification!! Because the game just end all of a sudden and I didnt even get to see calculation
Re: Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 03 February 2025, 15:18
by euklid314
You seem to be talking about game
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=624838822.
For this game you got +9 Elo points. This is the correct amount, there is no deduction because your opponent conceded. Also your opponent lost the correct amount of Elo points. There is no penalty for conceding in a 2-player game.
The only difference (which is what confused you) is that there was no final scoring. Thus the end score was 1:0 for you. But ELO gain/loss is not affected on the final score. Only whether you win or lose matters for ELO and their conceding gave you a full win.
Obviously there are different opinions on conceding a game. Most people are happy that the option exists because it shortens games that are already decided. It is not fun to drag on a game when you know you will be surely winning it and it is even less fun to drag on a game when you know you will be surely losing it.
On the other hand many players will agree that it is somewhat unsatisfactory when a game is conceded in the final move - since the argument of time saving does not even hold there. Still even such a conceding is perfectly allowed according to BGA policy.
Re: Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 03 February 2025, 22:30
by RobertBr
peggy0221 wrote: ↑03 February 2025, 14:35
Really? that's nice to know ... thanks for the clarification!! Because the game just end all of a sudden and I didnt even get to see calculation
And so having not seen the calculation and not understanding how the concede option worked you still chose to immediately come to the forum and make a completely false claim about it?
Of course you can't report your opponent for behaving in a completely normal and appropriate way.
Re: Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 04 February 2025, 06:34
by peggy0221
RobertBr wrote: ↑03 February 2025, 22:30
peggy0221 wrote: ↑03 February 2025, 14:35
Really? that's nice to know ... thanks for the clarification!! Because the game just end all of a sudden and I didnt even get to see calculation
And so having not seen the calculation and not understanding how the concede option worked you still chose to immediately come to the forum and make a completely false claim about it?
Of course you can't report your opponent for behaving in a completely normal and appropriate way.
Yes, I came to rant AND I come for answer! I asked what I dont know because I cant find it from Q&A. And why does it bother you?
Re: Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 04 February 2025, 06:36
by peggy0221
euklid314 wrote: ↑03 February 2025, 15:18
You seem to be talking about game
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=624838822.
For this game you got +9 Elo points. This is the correct amount, there is no deduction because your opponent conceded. Also your opponent lost the correct amount of Elo points. There is no penalty for conceding in a 2-player game.
The only difference (which is what confused you) is that there was no final scoring. Thus the end score was 1:0 for you. But ELO gain/loss is not affected on the final score. Only whether you win or lose matters for ELO and their conceding gave you a full win.
Obviously there are different opinions on conceding a game. Most people are happy that the option exists because it shortens games that are already decided. It is not fun to drag on a game when you know you will be surely winning it and it is even less fun to drag on a game when you know you will be surely losing it.
On the other hand many players will agree that it is somewhat unsatisfactory when a game is conceded in the final move - since the argument of time saving does not even hold there. Still even such a conceding is perfectly allowed according to BGA policy.
Thanks for talking the time!! I have looked from the Q&A and nothing really answered my questions.
And thanks for explaining in a very civil way!
Re: Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 05 February 2025, 23:13
by Bids
I always thought it was indeed like that, but I have now this guy * who is always conceding games and I'm not receiving any elo for it. for example: * . Is this a bug? He has been doing this on 4 or 5 games recently
edit: seems like the more you concede against a specific person, the less ELO you lose? if you look at the game history, at first he was losing 3 ELO, then 1, now always 0 * or maybe it is about the total game history with a player and has nothing to do with conceding? Apparently I have a very long consecutive win (26 games) against him (I think he will win the next one though
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*Moderation Edit: please do not use the Forums to call out specific tables or players by name, this is what the Moderation Reports are for. The Forums should remain a general discussion.
Re: Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 05 February 2025, 23:23
by ufm
Bids wrote: ↑05 February 2025, 23:13
I always thought it was indeed like that, but I have now this guy mitaocat who is always conceding games ....
It's not about conceding, but about consecutive wins:
https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33785
Re: Can we report a player who intentionally concede at the final round of the game knowing s/he's gonna loss?
Posted: 05 February 2025, 23:26
by Bids
Just found it as well! thanks a lot for your explanation, I wanted to edit my post again for people with the same question as me
I only noticed it after he started conceding. Makes sense now!
