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Advantage of 1st vs. 2nd player?
Posted: 07 February 2025, 17:27
by Obiwan Jacobi
I love all the game stats BGA provides, but I'd love to see data on % wins that are by 1st player vs 2nd. My own experience is that the privilege given to the second player creates a pretty balanced game, but I'd be curious to see what difference there is statically, if any.
Re: Advantage of 1st vs. 2nd player?
Posted: 07 February 2025, 23:01
by Alhunah
Hi there,
Being the first player to play is a huge advantage.
From my experience, I would say that the first player is winning between 60 and 65% of the time.
But only BGA could look at the real stats.
Re: Advantage of 1st vs. 2nd player?
Posted: 14 February 2025, 03:31
by Obiwan Jacobi
Unless they're playing against you, and then they lose 88% of the time! You're a pro!
Re: Advantage of 1st vs. 2nd player?
Posted: 10 September 2025, 10:05
by Nolyurn
I strangely prefer being second because i can use privilege to take a gem, then do whatever i want on the board. Can either take gold or 3 stones wherever i want. As 1st player you're a bit forced to take gem with stone around it and sometimes they are less interesting.
I don't know if it's best strategy but people here highly value card that cost 3 stone and bring a crown, as second player you can privilege gem + gold to reserve one of though card.
The interresting stat would be winrate percentage of 1st/2nd player on top 5% of player, because beginners can kill the stat by make it a bit random.
Re: Advantage of 1st vs. 2nd player?
Posted: 28 September 2025, 20:36
by pinklemonade00
For me, it really depends on what is dealt on the board.
For example, if it's got a 3 stone crown card, I would prefer to go first so I can reserve it. However, if my opponent does that, then I get 2 pinks. So from there, I look at how many cards are on the board require pinks. This is also complicated when there are two 3 stone golds dealt on the board.
This is the moment where you need to make a decision which direction your going in, and that simply comes from experience playing.
If non of those options, are looking good on the board, then I try to take tokens and force my opponent to buy a card first because there is a high chance of a 3 stone gold flipping and then I can reserve or buy it.
So overall, I dont think the advantage lays so much in the game, but rather the player. Both can be advantages (or not) depending on how you approach the game strategy wise.
Re: Advantage of 1st vs. 2nd player?
Posted: 14 October 2025, 22:50
by Bracht
I’m a bit confused by the distinction you guys seem to be making between “gems” and “stones”. What are “stones”?
I only know of “gems” (of different colors), “pearls”, and “gold”.