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Beware of these 2 players, they set up 3-player games and then work together to win. Shameful.

Posted: 29 March 2025, 15:37
by Barberserk
*Moderation Edit: please do not use the Forums to call out specific tables or players by name, this is what the Moderation Reports are for. The Forums should remain a general discussion.

Re: Beware of these 2 players, they set up 3-player games and then work together to win. Shameful.

Posted: 29 March 2025, 16:44
by euklid314
It is forbidden to shame and name other players on the public forums. You better remove the players names and the game before the moderators will do it for you. You might get moderated yourself for such a forum post.

Re: Beware of these 2 players, they set up 3-player games and then work together to win. Shameful.

Posted: 29 March 2025, 22:03
by Barberserk
euklid314 wrote: 29 March 2025, 16:44 It is forbidden to shame and name other players on the public forums. You better remove the players names and the game before the moderators will do it for you. You might get moderated yourself for such a forum post.
Yes I was moderated. You suggested me to report them under the option "Player uses multiple accounts to gain ELO" and when I do this I get the same message: "The best way to combat Kingmaking is to give the Kingmaker player a red thumb (public red thumbs). There is no use filling in a report here: please give a red thumb to the one who made the kingmaking moves." So, what happens now? I don't want to play detective but the evidence is there, how do I get it to some moderator without me getting in trouble?

Re: Beware of these 2 players, they set up 3-player games and then work together to win. Shameful.

Posted: 30 March 2025, 06:57
by euklid314
Barberserk wrote: 29 March 2025, 22:03
euklid314 wrote: 29 March 2025, 16:44 It is forbidden to shame and name other players on the public forums. You better remove the players names and the game before the moderators will do it for you. You might get moderated yourself for such a forum post.
Yes I was moderated. You suggested me to report them under the option "Player uses multiple accounts to gain ELO" and when I do this I get the same message: "The best way to combat Kingmaking is to give the Kingmaker player a red thumb (public red thumbs). There is no use filling in a report here: please give a red thumb to the one who made the kingmaking moves." So, what happens now? I don't want to play detective but the evidence is there, how do I get it to some moderator without me getting in trouble?
Sorry I forgot that after "Player uses multiple accounts to gain ELO" there is another choice. You have to continue with "The accounts play against each other to cheat the ranking system". You seem to have chosen option "The accounts play as a team to help each other" - but as I wrote: Kingmaking is not reportable, ELO cheating is!

Re: Beware of these 2 players, they set up 3-player games and then work together to win. Shameful.

Posted: 30 March 2025, 10:27
by Barberserk
Thank you let's try it. I'll do my best.

Re: Beware of these 2 players, they set up 3-player games and then work together to win. Shameful.

Posted: 18 July 2025, 22:10
by zoomboom
euklid314 wrote: 30 March 2025, 06:57
Barberserk wrote: 29 March 2025, 22:03
euklid314 wrote: 29 March 2025, 16:44 It is forbidden to shame and name other players on the public forums. You better remove the players names and the game before the moderators will do it for you. You might get moderated yourself for such a forum post.
Yes I was moderated. You suggested me to report them under the option "Player uses multiple accounts to gain ELO" and when I do this I get the same message: "The best way to combat Kingmaking is to give the Kingmaker player a red thumb (public red thumbs). There is no use filling in a report here: please give a red thumb to the one who made the kingmaking moves." So, what happens now? I don't want to play detective but the evidence is there, how do I get it to some moderator without me getting in trouble?
Sorry I forgot that after "Player uses multiple accounts to gain ELO" there is another choice. You have to continue with "The accounts play against each other to cheat the ranking system". You seem to have chosen option "The accounts play as a team to help each other" - but as I wrote: Kingmaking is not reportable, ELO cheating is!
Dang, that stinks that king making is against the rules but it not reportable. Hurts only the honest players.

Re: Beware of these 2 players, they set up 3-player games and then work together to win. Shameful.

Posted: 19 July 2025, 02:29
by euklid314
zoomboom wrote: 18 July 2025, 22:10
euklid314 wrote: 30 March 2025, 06:57
Barberserk wrote: 29 March 2025, 22:03

Yes I was moderated. You suggested me to report them under the option "Player uses multiple accounts to gain ELO" and when I do this I get the same message: "The best way to combat Kingmaking is to give the Kingmaker player a red thumb (public red thumbs). There is no use filling in a report here: please give a red thumb to the one who made the kingmaking moves." So, what happens now? I don't want to play detective but the evidence is there, how do I get it to some moderator without me getting in trouble?
Sorry I forgot that after "Player uses multiple accounts to gain ELO" there is another choice. You have to continue with "The accounts play against each other to cheat the ranking system". You seem to have chosen option "The accounts play as a team to help each other" - but as I wrote: Kingmaking is not reportable, ELO cheating is!
Dang, that stinks that king making is against the rules but it not reportable. Hurts only the honest players.
If players systematically kingmake this will automatically boost their ELO rating. Thus it is forbidden, can be reported (see above) and will be punished by the moderators - if properly reported such there is no reasonable doubt left in the specific case.

Singular kingmaking, however, is part of many games. Often players cannot win themselves but their moves will decide the winner. In such a case you might not be happy with their decisions if they did not choose you to win. But you cannot report such a case (and that is good!) thus you are suggested by BGA to red thumb and move on.