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Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 06 June 2025, 06:23
by luisalacet
In a 2 player BGA game both players have access to the same information about the same code, meaning that if you assume the other player can make all the logical deductions you made yourself the best play on the end game is always to stall by asking questions you know for sure wont give your opponent info or if there are not that many possible options left guess randomly between them. I feel like this problem could be easily fixed by having both players not share info avoiding a final game state where every number is fully red from stall guesses, or one where the winner was decided by a 1 in 3 guess.

Re: Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 06 June 2025, 07:40
by Camel60
Yes, I agree this is a huge problem for this game.
Another way to fix the problem is to give the possibility to the other player to give a code after one player found it.
If both players find it, they win together!

Re: Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 08 June 2025, 20:51
by Shoaling
I like Camel60's idea of winning together on the last turn with everyone who gets it right. I feel like a jerk doing stalling guesses while my opponent generates information that helps both of us but if you don't do stalling guesses then you lose.

Re: Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 23 June 2025, 01:39
by Silverbullet999
Just adding a +1 to this. They did the same thing with Orapa Mine and it's such an odd decision. I wish we at least had an option to hide the information gained from the question (or even the question itself) just to make it more like an actual versus game.

Re: Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 23 June 2025, 12:13
by positiveFail
+1! This is definitely a bad architectural decision. A game between good players can turn into a circus.

Re: Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 06 July 2025, 13:33
by Anjin-san
+1 Need to be fixed!

Re: Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 08 July 2025, 20:12
by Dunefarm
+1, we were immediately disappointed by this implementation and abandoned the game.
I was originally drawn to the game for its versus mode - as is in the box!
This is such a weird implementation.

Re: Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 18 July 2025, 20:51
by Fearinn

Re: Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 04 August 2025, 09:40
by nannanwang
+1 The current rules are unfair, who first,who lose

Re: Shared information stalling/guessing issue

Posted: 04 August 2025, 13:27
by MasN
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/350455 ... 8#46022558

You would think they learned their lesson...