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Proposal for ELO Rating System Enhancement

Posted: 04 July 2025, 13:10
by FabioUK
Proposal for ELO Rating System Enhancement

It has been observed that certain players frequently participate in games—such as Catan—with the same group of individuals, often achieving repeated victories together.

While this behavior does not necessarily indicate collusion or unfair play, and may in fact reflect heightened competitiveness among familiar opponents, it nonetheless introduces a potential imbalance. Regularly playing with the same individuals can confer a strategic advantage due to familiarity with each other's playstyles, potential communication outside the official game channels, and established rapport.

Although playing with friends is an enjoyable aspect of the gaming experience, such matches should ideally be considered casual and not influence the competitive ELO ranking system.

Recommendation:
To preserve the integrity of the ELO rankings, I propose introducing a threshold—either a percentage (e.g., 10% or 20%) or a fixed number of games—beyond which repeated matches between the same players are excluded from ELO calculations. Only the initial games within this threshold would contribute to the ELO rating; subsequent games would be treated as casual and excluded from ranking considerations.

Example:
If Player A has played 100 games of Catan, and 65 of those games included the same opponent, and the threshold is set at 10%, only the first 10 games involving that opponent would count toward Player A’s ELO rating. The remaining 55 games would be excluded.

This threshold should be configurable based on community feedback and data analysis to ensure fairness and flexibility.

Furthermore, all players involved should be notified of this condition prior to confirming participation in a match, ensuring transparency and informed consent.

Re: Proposal for ELO Rating System Enhancement

Posted: 04 July 2025, 17:35
by 6element
They tried implementing something along the lines (and it is currently live) and it ended up being a weird hack, which skews Elo results and encourages either playing less or expelling frequent opponents before the game starts. It hasn't been received well. https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33785 discusses it, it is quite sad to see how they ask for feedback, get it, and ignore it.

Your suggestion is different, but the devil is in the details, it has to be really well thought out, playtested and tweaked based on feedback and analysis. After following the discussion above there is 0% trust BGA has capable personnel / processes to do it.

Re: Proposal for ELO Rating System Enhancement

Posted: 07 July 2025, 23:26
by FabioUK
Thanks for your comment 👍