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[Challenge] Max score without brown power birds

Posted: 04 August 2025, 19:42
by kostinen
Hi everyone, following the thread https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43801, I would like to propose another challenge. Same rules, but without the brown power birds. This means you cannot play them at all!

Here are the full rules from the original thread, edited with the new rule. Some rule have been removed since they are not relevant with the new rule:
- No opponent (You won't receive cards, food, or eggs from an opponent. Still okay to play/use feeding birds yourself)
- Stacked deck (You choose which birds you draw to your hand + Decide what Bonus Cards you draw)
- Stacked birdfeeder (You choose which food is available in the birdfeeder)
- Arena birds only (No Ravens, Gull, Killdeer, or Wood Duck)
- No power birds (the ones with the brown note at the bottom of the card)

For the sake of the experiment:
- Assume you win all end of round goals - so 22 points automatically!
I personally found the last challenge very interesting. I think it helps to understand better the game.
Believe it or not, I didn't try yet with the new rule so we all are on the same page :)

I really wonder how much points we can do without those incredible power birds

Like in the other thread, you can post your sequence of 26 moves (there are examples in the thread). Good luck !

Re: [Challenge] Max score without power birds

Posted: 04 August 2025, 19:52
by Ceaseless
I'm assuming this is the case, but I'll ask anyways. No brown power birds means you can't even play them without using their powers?

Re: [Challenge] Max score without power birds

Posted: 04 August 2025, 19:57
by kostinen
Ceaseless wrote: 04 August 2025, 19:52 I'm assuming this is the case, but I'll ask anyways. No brown power birds means you can't even play them without using their powers?
Yes good point, you cannot play them at all. Same rule as for the "fab 5", we just remove the cards from the deck before the game starts.

Re: [Challenge] Max score without power birds

Posted: 04 August 2025, 21:29
by FrankJones
Wait what ? Am I understand this correctly? We cannot use or even play any birds with a brown "when activated" ability?

THAT is an intriguing challenge.

Re: [Challenge] Max score without power birds

Posted: 05 August 2025, 07:04
by kostinen
FrankJones wrote: 04 August 2025, 21:29 Wait what ? Am I understand this correctly? We cannot use or even play any birds with a brown "when activated" ability?

THAT is an intriguing challenge.
Yes!

Re: [Challenge] Max score without brown power birds

Posted: 06 August 2025, 15:31
by kostinen
I just give it a try with 139 points. I have to admit I prefer the game with brown power birds ^^


FORMAT:
(Move #). (Move) <> Cards in hand | Eggs on Birds / Egg spots available | Food

0. Start with 1 food, Nothern Flicker, Carolina Wren, Bell's Vireo and Ash-throated Flycatcher <> 4 | 0/0 | 1
1. Play Nothern Flicker in Grassland <> 3 | 0/4 | 5
2. Play Carolina Wren in Forest <> 4 | 0/9 | 4
3. 2x eggs <> 4 | 2/9 | 4
4. Play Bell's Vireo in Forest <> 3 | 1/11 | 2
5. 2x foods <> 3 | 1/11 | 4
6. Play Ash-throated Flycatcher in Grassland <> 2 | 4/15 | 1
7. 2x foods <> 2 | 4/15 | 3
8. Play American Oystercatcher in Wetland <> 3 | 4/17 | 1
9. 2x foods <> 3 | 4/17 | 3
10. Play Red-eyed Vireo + Cerulean Warbler in forest <> 1 | 1/17 | 0
11. 3x foods <> 1 | 1/17 | 3
12. Play Black-necked Stilt in Wetland <> 2 | 0/19 | 1
13. 3x eggs <> 2 | 3/19 | 1
14. 3x foods <> 2 | 3/19 | 4
15. Play Bald Eagle in Wetland <> 1 | 2/20 | 6
16. 3x eggs <> 1 | 5/20 | 6
17. 2x cards <> 3 | 5/20 | 6
18. Play Great Egret + Atlantic Puffin in Wetland <> 1 | 1/27 | 0
19. 3x cards <> 4 | 1/27 | 0
20. 3x foods <> 4 | 1/27 | 3
21. Play American Goldfinch in Grassland <> 3 | 0/27 | 4
22. 4x eggs (trade 1 food) <> 3 | 4/27 | 3
23. Play Painted Bunting in Grassland <> 2 | 2/31 | 0
24. 3x foods <> 2 | 2/31 | 3
25. Play Say's Phoebe in Grassland <> 1 | 7/34 | 0
26. Play California Condor in Forest <> 0 | 5/34 | 0

6 Bonus cards = Food Web Expert (8 points), Ecologist (10), Prairie manager (8), Cavity nests (7), Bowl nests (7), Ground nests (7)

47 Bonus Cards
22 End of Round Bonus
65 Birds
5 Eggs

Total : 139

Re: [Challenge] Max score without brown power birds

Posted: 08 August 2025, 21:43
by fifthnephi
139 is pretty impressive! I will try this when I have time.