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Arena game suddenly ended without concede
Posted: 08 August 2025, 00:28
by boardgamesmue
I just played
https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=712023634 and while finishing my last turn the game ended all of a sudden. My opponent was a bit out of time and I did not click to concede. Is this a known Bug?
Re: Arena game suddenly ended without concede
Posted: 08 August 2025, 00:53
by Meeplelowda
The final log message is "All players (with a positive clock) chose to abandon this game." You said you did not click to concede, but did you touch
anything else in the hamburger menu during your last turn?
Re: Arena game suddenly ended without concede
Posted: 08 August 2025, 01:13
by boardgamesmue
Meeplelowda wrote: ↑08 August 2025, 00:53
The final log message is "All players (with a positive clock) chose to abandon this game." You said you did not click to concede, but did you touch
anything else in the hamburger menu during your last turn?
Nope, I play a lot so definetely not doing that. I was "clicking" to earn my projects with the double marker active.
Re: Arena game suddenly ended without concede
Posted: 08 August 2025, 03:03
by Meeplelowda
boardgamesmue wrote: ↑08 August 2025, 01:13
Meeplelowda wrote: ↑08 August 2025, 00:53
The final log message is "All players (with a positive clock) chose to abandon this game." You said you did not click to concede, but did you touch
anything else in the hamburger menu during your last turn?
Nope, I play a lot so definetely not doing that. I was "clicking" to earn my projects with the double marker active.
Did a message like "player X has proposed to abandon the game" pop up during that turn. You had like 5 undos, so could it have been accidentally clicked?
If none of that happened, then a bug report would be appropriate. I'm not sure how detailed the server logs are to be able to tell if an abandonment proposal was transmitted. And I'm not 100% sure a person out of time can even initiate an abandonment. I only know they are automatically marked as voting yes if abandonment is proposed.
Re: Arena game suddenly ended without concede
Posted: 08 August 2025, 11:26
by boardgamesmue
Meeplelowda wrote: ↑08 August 2025, 03:03
boardgamesmue wrote: ↑08 August 2025, 01:13
Meeplelowda wrote: ↑08 August 2025, 00:53
The final log message is "All players (with a positive clock) chose to abandon this game." You said you did not click to concede, but did you touch
anything else in the hamburger menu during your last turn?
Nope, I play a lot so definetely not doing that. I was "clicking" to earn my projects with the double marker active.
Did a message like "player X has proposed to abandon the game" pop up during that turn. You had like 5 undos, so could it have been accidentally clicked?
If none of that happened, then a bug report would be appropriate. I'm not sure how detailed the server logs are to be able to tell if an abandonment proposal was transmitted. And I'm not 100% sure a person out of time can even initiate an abandonment. I only know they are automatically marked as voting yes if abandonment is proposed.
Valid argument, maybe that proposal was sneaked in, but sadly not seen in the logs so just a dev/admin might be able to see this.
Good catch, maybe a dev has an idea what could have happened. Was an obvious win so for sure I wouldn't have agreed.
Re: Arena game suddenly ended without concede
Posted: 08 August 2025, 14:27
by SirL
If you are out of time and the other player proposes to abandon the game, then the game ends instantly like yours. Thats because only players with a positive clock are required to agree to abandon. Considering you undid a lot of moves on your last turn my best guess is you went over thinking time and opponent used the opportunity to abandon.
Re: Arena game suddenly ended without concede
Posted: 08 August 2025, 15:54
by boardgamesmue
SirL wrote: ↑08 August 2025, 14:27
If you are out of time and the other player proposes to abandon the game, then the game ends instantly like yours. Thats because only players with a positive clock are required to agree to abandon. Considering you undid a lot of moves on your last turn my best guess is you went over thinking time and opponent used the opportunity to abandon.
I was still fully in my timerange so that wasn't it.
Re: Arena game suddenly ended without concede
Posted: 08 August 2025, 16:52
by Meeplelowda
SirL wrote: ↑08 August 2025, 14:27
Considering you undid a lot of moves on your last turn my best guess is you went over thinking time and opponent used the opportunity to abandon.
I thought maybe this happened as well, but you don't have to rely on boardgamesmue's memory. There is an option to show the thinking time in the log (it's a tick box at the bottom) and it shows they were within time even with the undos. [well, the graph at the bottom also shows this]