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How does thinking time work?

Posted: 05 November 2025, 04:48
by _nja_
I'm fairly new to BGA and I've started playing a few tables in turn based mode.
I was recently kicked out of a game for taking too long to play (I missed the notification email), and although BGA says my reputation was not penalized because it is the first time, I'd still like to understand exactly what happened, because
- I don't think I actually took that long to play that last turn
- Many times I saw the same user "stalling" the game for some hours and it was not me (we were probably on incompatible timezones)

I'm now realizing that the time you have to play does not "restart" with every turn, but you "accumulate" some thinking time.
Reviewing the table, I still do not quite understand what happened, because there is one other user with much more negative time than me, but still BGA declared me the quitter and all others winners.

Here is the link to the table review
https://boardgamearena.com/gamereview?table=753111322
looking at the Thinking time evolution and using "Display thinking time in logs (above)", if I'm not reading it incorrectly, I was right in my impression that I was not the first player stalling the game, dipping into the negative thinking time numbers (around Move 101). Although it is true that by that time I had had one specific turn (around Move 85) where I had taken way too long to play and I used up like 11 hours in that one move.
After that we continued playing, no one skipped over the player with negative time and they continued going lower for some turns.
By Move 148 that same player was already on almost minus 6 hours, and I was on the positives with a little over 1h left.
On Move 154 some other player plays way outside the playing hours of the table, and as far as I know the clock should not be running then, but I imagine it starts again when playing hours resume, and it's true I only had over an hour left and it took me some hours to see the notification in my email.
3 hours later the player skips over my turn because I am out of time
By the end of the game in the Thinking time evolution graph there is clearly another player with way lower available thinking time with less than -12 hours, and my line is just some minutes below 0 (although by my calculations it would make sense to put me around -4 hours).

It seems like that as long as you are below 0, it does not matter how much below 0, or how much below 0 other players are, if someone loses their patience in your turn, you get the penalty and all others are winners, even others below 0 too. I get that I should have followed the table more closely, but it seems strange to me that the player with -12 hours was considered winner.

Am I reading this right?
Thank you for any insight :)

Re: How does thinking time work?

Posted: 05 November 2025, 05:25
by Meeplelowda
_nja_ wrote: 05 November 2025, 04:48 It seems like that as long as you are below 0, it does not matter how much below 0, or how much below 0 other players are, if someone loses their patience in your turn, you get the penalty and all others are winners, even others below 0 too. I get that I should have followed the table more closely, but it seems strange to me that the player with -12 hours was considered winner.

Am I reading this right?
Thank you for any insight :)
Basically, yes, the system is broken in this way. It doesn't force you to (or even let you) kick the person who is most negative if it isn't their turn.

That said, it may be worth it to you to choose a slower speed table. A game ending because someone ran out of time is the most unsatisfying outcome on this platform, even if it isn't you who ran out of time.

Re: How does thinking time work?

Posted: 05 November 2025, 15:54
by _nja_
Meeplelowda wrote: 05 November 2025, 05:25 Basically, yes, the system is broken in this way. It doesn't force you to (or even let you) kick the person who is most negative if it isn't their turn.
Thank you for the confirmation!
Meeplelowda wrote: 05 November 2025, 05:25 That said, it may be worth it to you to choose a slower speed table. A game ending because someone ran out of time is the most unsatisfying outcome on this platform, even if it isn't you who ran out of time.
Yes, definitely, I'll pay more attention to the game speed next time. I haven't gotten the hang of what "x moves per day" means in terms of how many hours I'll get between being notified and playing my turn, and I was frustrated with some very slow games (I'm on a wingspan table that's about to be a month old!) so I (unsuccessfully :oops: ) tried a faster one. I'll need to find the middle ground :)

Re: How does thinking time work?

Posted: 05 November 2025, 16:04
by Jellby

Re: How does thinking time work?

Posted: 05 November 2025, 16:12
by _nja_
Jellby wrote: 05 November 2025, 16:04 This may be relevant:
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=67333
For sure! I just voted for it, thanks for bringing it to my attention!

Other thing I just noticed is that the times displayed in the forum do not match my current time. Is the forum using the same timezone configuration that the rest of BGA or not? Maybe the playing hours I though suited my just fine actually don't.
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I just found the configuration for the forum at least and fixed it :)

Re: How does thinking time work?

Posted: 10 November 2025, 20:30
by Mathew5000
_nja_ wrote: 05 November 2025, 16:12 Is the forum using the same timezone configuration that the rest of BGA or not?
Not. Discussed on page 2 of this thread: viewtopic.php?t=38645