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Why is so hard to get Elo 500 in Bang?

Posted: 14 March 2026, 15:49
by bang5helo
Hi everyone I've noticed that a lot of players are fairly or unfairly winning Bang Elo top 1 or Bang arena top 1 but I didn't noticed any player who won Bang Elo 500.
Or in some games players have Elo more than 1000 or highest Elo I've ever seen 8699.
So I'm interested why is it so hard.

List of players who won Bang Elo 500: https://boardgamearena.com/award?game=1320&award=26

Re: Why is so hard to get Elo 500 in Bang?

Posted: 14 March 2026, 16:24
by Ceaseless
bang5helo wrote: 14 March 2026, 15:49 Hi everyone I've noticed that a lot of players are fairly or unfairly winning Bang Elo top 1 or Bang arena top 1 but I didn't noticed any player who won Bang Elo 500.
Or in some games players have Elo more than 1000 or highest Elo I've ever seen 8699.
So I'm interested why is it so hard.

List of players who won Bang Elo 500: https://boardgamearena.com/award?game=1320&award=26
It isn't very difficult to do. Cheating to get to #1 in Bang is basic enough, cheating to 500 is no better. I doubt many people are stupid enough to bother doing it, but if they wanted to, there's nothing special about wasting some extra time on it. I don't see much point in checking a list of 500s in Bang unless you need a list of people to make fun of.

Re: Why is so hard to get Elo 500 in Bang?

Posted: 15 March 2026, 21:48
by slav4ella
bang5helo wrote: 14 March 2026, 15:49 Hi everyone I've noticed that a lot of players are fairly or unfairly winning Bang Elo top 1 or Bang arena top 1 but I didn't noticed any player who won Bang Elo 500.
Or in some games players have Elo more than 1000 or highest Elo I've ever seen 8699.
So I'm interested why is it so hard.

List of players who won Bang Elo 500: https://boardgamearena.com/award?game=1320&award=26
It’s not hard to reach that by cheating, like you did. But doing it legitimately is almost impossible. High-ELO games are usually 1v1, where the best players win 70–90% of their matches. Bang!, however, is a team game, and even the best players only have a 48–51% win rate. That means they lose roughly every second game. With a win rate like that, it’s practically impossible to get a 15+ game win streak legitimately and gain a huge amount of ELO.

Re: Why is so hard to get Elo 500 in Bang?

Posted: 19 March 2026, 15:31
by tarongot
It's obvious. Game has very high "luck factor". Its very random, winning depends not only on your skill but skill of others, "rolls" (cards) you get. I see games that no one has Expert or Master level. It's about game design not actual players skill.
bang5helo wrote: 14 March 2026, 15:49 ....
Or in some games players have Elo more than 1000 or highest Elo I've ever seen 8699.
So I'm interested why is it so hard.
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I'm sure that ELO 8699 is for cooperative game. BGA treats that kind of games different (very bad, but that is different problem), so that high scores aren't saying anything except that you like this game. No real knowledge of your skill (and that's a problem BGA dosen't want to recognize).

Re: Why is so hard to get Elo 500 in Bang?

Posted: 19 March 2026, 17:44
by ExaltedAngel
BGA should do something about this, deleting both the account and the achievement especially.

The fact that OP posts here this pathetic veiled brag makes the entire thing even worse.