Hey look! Loop in boop!

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Falseowl
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Hey look! Loop in boop!

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Grey: (1 πŸ”² | 0 ⬛) / Orange: (3 🟨 | 1 πŸŸ₯) 
🟦🟦πŸŸ₯πŸ”²πŸŸ¦πŸ”²
🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦
πŸŸ¦πŸ”²πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦
πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
πŸ”²πŸŸ₯πŸŸ₯β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
🟦🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦
I encountered an infinite loop situation today.
Grey's situation is forced. Orange is risky.

If orange plays 6-2, he pushes the kitten out. Then grey plays 5-1 and pushes orange's kitten out too.

It's not good to let grey turn the kitten into a cat (like 4-1), but that's the only outcome. This will most likely result in grey having a superiority of pieces on the field.
So it seems like the best outcome for orange here is an infinite loop. That is a tie.

I don't know if the mechanics of a draw is built in here by repeating moves like Chess or Go.
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BoopMaster
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Re: Hey look! Loop in boop!

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Here's a continuation that will still be in orange's favor. You play a kitten on 2-3. This pushes a grey kitten off the board, preventing the all 8-feline rule. It sets you up for a 1 cat + 2 kitten promotion. And grey cannot promote 3 kittens because they're guarding your 2 cats from winning the game.

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Grey: (2 πŸ”² | 0 ⬛) / Orange: (2 🟨 | 1 πŸŸ₯) 
🟦🟦πŸŸ₯πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸ”²
🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦🟦
πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦
πŸ”²β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
πŸ”²πŸŸ₯πŸŸ₯β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
🟦🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦
You might wonder what happens if grey promotes on 4-3:

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Grey: (1 πŸ”² | 3 ⬛) / Orange: (2 🟨 | 1 πŸŸ₯) 
🟦🟦πŸŸ₯πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸ”²
🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦🟦
πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦
🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦
πŸ”²πŸŸ₯πŸŸ₯β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
🟦🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦
That's fine. You can promote as well. It's an even trade, and you'll end up with 1 more cat than grey.

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Grey: (1 πŸ”² | 3 ⬛) / Orange: (1 🟨 | 4 πŸŸ₯) 
πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸ”²
🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦
πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦
🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦
πŸ”²πŸŸ₯πŸŸ₯β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
🟦🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦
You could also play a kitten on 4-2 instead to push the opponent's kitten off the board, and orange is slightly ahead.

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Grey: (2 πŸ”² | 3 ⬛) / Orange: (1 🟨 | 4 πŸŸ₯) 
🟦🟦πŸŸ₯πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸ”²
🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦🟦
πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦
🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟦πŸŸ₯πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦
Grey may respond with a cat on 6-4.

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Grey: (2 πŸ”² | 2 ⬛) / Orange: (1 🟨 | 4 πŸŸ₯) 
🟦🟦πŸŸ₯πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸ”²
🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦🟦
πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦
πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
🟦πŸŸ₯🟦🟦🟦🟦
πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
Last edited by BoopMaster on 26 April 2024, 23:43, edited 2 times in total.
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Chomp77
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Re: Hey look! Loop in boop!

Post by Chomp77 »

BoopMaster wrote: ↑26 April 2024, 14:27

You may also wonder about putting a kitten on 4-2 instead to push the opponent's kitten off the board and create a threat to win. But this is a very dangerous move for orange.

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Grey: (2 πŸ”² | 3 ⬛) / Orange: (1 🟨 | 1 πŸŸ₯) 
🟦🟦πŸŸ₯πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸ”²
🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦🟦
πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦β¬›πŸŸ¦
🟦🟨🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟦πŸŸ₯πŸŸ₯β¬›πŸŸ¦πŸŸ¦
🟦🟦🟦🟨🟦🟦

This will graduate your pieces at (4,2), (5,3) and (6,4) though, so it is not even creating a threat to win.
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BoopMaster
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Re: Hey look! Loop in boop!

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Oh, I missed that. I'm not used to staring at emojis. And I keep forgetting if I subtracted a number from the pool or not.

Time to edit!
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