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by Waugapapa
10 December 2024, 20:48
Forum: Hearts
Topic: Why can't we vote on changes?
Replies: 14
Views: 832

Re: Why can't we vote on changes?

*Moderator: Post removed for aggressive words towards the valued developer. Please be respectful in your communication on BGA or we reserve the right to remove your ability to do so. If you are unhappy with the BGA implementation of Hearts, we kindly invite you to stop playing it.
by Waugapapa
10 December 2024, 20:39
Forum: Hearts
Topic: So when are we fixing ELO????
Replies: 9
Views: 446

So when are we fixing ELO????

I would REALLY like to play hearts on here.

Four games today. Every game had someone who was just dumping the queen, no matter what the score.

NONE of these players got first place.

Hearts only has a winner.

The only way to teach these players how to play hearts is to fix the ELO.
by Waugapapa
25 October 2024, 15:26
Forum: Hearts
Topic: Why can't we vote on changes?
Replies: 14
Views: 832

Re: Why can't we vote on changes?

I like how the answer is always “it’s been discussed”

Yeah, and nothing has changed.

Hearts has one winner, 3 equal losers.

Once people dump the queen to keep 3rd place on round three, it’s not hearts anymore.

Fix it, stop making excuses.
by Waugapapa
04 August 2024, 22:41
Forum: Hearts
Topic: ELO is fine. BGA Hearts is a different game than traditional Hearts.
Replies: 2
Views: 357

Re: ELO is fine. BGA Hearts is a different game than traditional Hearts.

You’re not really saying much here. “We have altered the game of hearts so significantly, by grafting a ranking system onto it, that it is an entirely different game. You have to ask for a new game, entirely, if you want actual hearts.” Or, just fix the ranking system? The ranking system does not wo...
by Waugapapa
28 June 2024, 04:31
Forum: Hearts
Topic: Poor sportsmanship
Replies: 20
Views: 10331

Re: Poor sportsmanship

Yes. The ELO grinders who play on here dump the queen in a way those of us who have played hearts for decades HATE. It is the worst. Please fix the ELO
by Waugapapa
16 May 2024, 14:19
Forum: Hearts
Topic: We need to have a talk about ELO
Replies: 12
Views: 1339

Re: We need to have a talk about ELO

Because, pretty certainly, your actual problem here is not the ELO system, but that in these games the other players, to some degree, are flexible whom to play against, and that this doesnt always match with whom you think they should play against. That will never be the case, no matter how you imp...
by Waugapapa
16 May 2024, 14:05
Forum: Hearts
Topic: We need to have a talk about ELO
Replies: 12
Views: 1339

Re: We need to have a talk about ELO

EDIT: I've had enough. You proved you can't post any credible basis for your argument. I'll not respond further to this subject. I’m glad you’ve had enough of being wrong! Once again—every link *you provided* described one winner and three losers. Ranking the losers provides grades of winner, which...
by Waugapapa
15 May 2024, 02:00
Forum: Hearts
Topic: We need to have a talk about ELO
Replies: 12
Views: 1339

Re: We need to have a talk about ELO

No. You’ve made no argument here. Ironically, the links you provide only prove the point. There is only a winner, and three losers. Ranking the losers creates grades of winner, which the game itself doesn’t have. You’ve tried the old internet trick of citing logical fallacies, as a method of argumen...
by Waugapapa
13 May 2024, 18:18
Forum: Hearts
Topic: We need to have a talk about ELO
Replies: 12
Views: 1339

Re: We need to have a talk about ELO

You can rank the players — but you only rank the winner. There is, literally, no other win condition. Because the ELO determines the type of player you end up playing with, people GO CRAZY making sure they don’t lose ELO, and so you have people playing in a wildly differnt fashion to achieve win con...
by Waugapapa
13 May 2024, 02:31
Forum: Hearts
Topic: We need to have a talk about ELO
Replies: 12
Views: 1339

Re: We need to have a talk about ELO

Yes. This is a massive problem. Apparently, the coder of hearts just says “this uses the same ELO as other 4 players games in BGA.” Uh, no? Hearts has a *unique* win condition. The game Is completely different if only winning is meaningful. I had some clown dump the Q on me, then PASS A SHOOT to the...

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