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Pigeon’s post is amazing

BGA has to do something here… Azul may be the only significantly impacted game so far but we are probably only a few months to a year away from bots being in every game to some extent.

An obvious bot: ***

Edited by Moderator: even if it is obvious (or not), please do not name others in any way on these forums.

I think the whole gaming industry is affected by the current AI development. Chess has the problem of AI assistance in online competitions for many years now and they established counter measures at least in high-stakes tournaments that would not be feasable in the BGA world (like players must film...

Looks like Sam from No Wonders did a video on precisely this about a year ago (with a shout out to Priptonite ;) ). The chap that was profiled as number one now has his Azul ELO at zero. So it would appear that with compelling evidence BGA takes action. Now that I think of it, there was another cas...

The easiest games for bots to exist are abstract games, because the information is all open. I'm not good enough at Azul to know, but I would assume it's much like chess where a computer can easily work out what the best move is. Yeah, there are unknowns but the unknowns have simple probability dis...

With the advances in AI it seems people are literally just saying “build me an Azul bot” and achieving good results haha.

I have minimal Harmonies experience but I believe the game is more complicated than Azul from a possible-actions standpoint. Azul is relatively simple in that regard.

The existence of the bots is not speculation, we have multiple bot creators in our discord lol. And the community is not actually anti-bot, they are very useful for learning strategy. The problem is that it is pointless to compete in Arena when the bots are running it over. If someone wants to build...

1. Elo reflects skill
2. In a game with randomness (and even in games without) a lower Elo player can beat a higher one…

Why is this a debate lol

100 elo players with 2000 games are not the ones you should be concerned about, it’s 100 elo players with 10 games that are more likely to be smurf accounts. We all lose to low rated players sometimes, just the nature of the game. Sometimes the tiles come out such that they can follow a very simple ...