Auto-fill with Google translate, for further tweaking

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Auto-fill with Google translate, for further tweaking

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I think I've seen "translated by Google Translate" on some translation pages. Is there a way to trigger this?

I'd love it if there was a button to fill the translate box with Google translate result, so the translator just have to check and fix mistakes. Just to minimize on the copy and pasting.
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We have setup this (populating empty translations with machine translations) a few years ago for a selection of languages.

For some of these languages, results were not so good and translators complained that it was actually hindering the process. So we didn't extend this to all languages.

If you consider that (Google Translate) machine translation quality is good enough for English to Swedish to be helpful and facilitate the process, we can try adding it.

NB: maybe this should be discussed with other Swedish translators first in the specific language subforum dedicated to Swedish viewforum.php?f=428
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While Google translate is far from perfect, it works moderately well for English-> Swedish. There will usually be a word or two that needs manual translation.

I can add a post in the Swedish forum, but (as of right now) nobody has ever used it, so I'm not sure if anybody will see it.
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Ideally, I would like to see a Google translate button at each phrase, rather than all the empty boxes were filled by Google in one go. Or one straight copy button (useful for phrases with code) and one Google translate button.

Here's a quick mock-up:
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fruktansvärt wrote: 14 December 2021, 01:12 Ideally, I would like to see a Google translate button at each phrase, rather than all the empty boxes were filled by Google in one go. Or one straight copy button (useful for phrases with code) and one Google translate button.

Here's a quick mock-up:
tanslate-button.png
It's a nice suggestion, but I don't have the dev time to do that at the moment.
Only thing I can do for now (if desired) is to activate the back-office auto translation for your language auto-filling empty translation with a machine translation.
Actually, I checked and it's already active for the mainsite strings. So I would be activating it too for game strings (limited to most popular + 3 last published games). Please let me know if that would help.
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fruktansvärt wrote: 14 December 2021, 01:12 Ideally, I would like to see a Google translate button at each phrase, rather than all the empty boxes were filled by Google in one go. Or one straight copy button (useful for phrases with code) and one Google translate button.
The copy button is a good idea, but definitely not a Google Translate button. It is still quite bad for anything but the most simple strings and it would just encourage people to spam it on all translations for some easy gift points, with horrendous results.
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KongKing123 wrote: 15 December 2021, 13:12 The copy button is a good idea, but definitely not a Google Translate button. It is still quite bad for anything but the most simple strings and it would just encourage people to spam it on all translations for some easy gift points, with horrendous results.
Well it would not give any point. Like today with the back-office system it would be marked as machine translated, unless edited manually. The copy button actually feels more risky for mistakenly leaving the English text as a translated text.
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I believe most translators are copying and pasting many (if not most) of the phrases, just to get the code bits right, so I feel the copy button would simplify things for us translators.

Possibly the button(s) would only appear to people with at least 50 validated translations? Yes, more dev time. Please keep it in mind, Een, for when you have time.

Re: auto-filling Swedish auto translation of popular and newest games: Nobody has as yet answered my post in the Swedish forum, but for me, I say turn it on. Would there be some indication of which games has been machine translated?
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fruktansvärt wrote: 15 December 2021, 18:54 I believe most translators are copying and pasting many (if not most) of the phrases, just to get the code bits right, so I feel the copy button would simplify things for us translators.

Possibly the button(s) would only appear to people with at least 50 validated translations? Yes, more dev time. Please keep it in mind, Een, for when you have time.
I'm against this idea.
It's really easy to abuse, and it is not a common practice when the phrase is short, similar phrases are repetitively used across the game, or phrases do not include a variable.
If you are struggling with ${actplayer} and ${you}, just open 2 windows, find each term, and start translation. It makes the progress way faster.
${player_name} is much easier. Search and copy '${player_name}', then no need to copy the entire text in most cases.
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fruktansvärt wrote: 15 December 2021, 18:54 Re: auto-filling Swedish auto translation of popular and newest games: Nobody has as yet answered my post in the Swedish forum, but for me, I say turn it on. Would there be some indication of which games has been machine translated?
Done for Swedish, it will run within the next 24 hours.
There is an indication on the game page of the state of translation relative to machine translation when it's not at least 90% human translated. Otherwise, scope is simple enough: the most popular games (as displayed in the matching category on the game list page) + the 3 last released games. In the translation headquarters, translation progress doesn't take into account machine translation so that translators don't mistakenly believe translation is complete (a string is considered translated only if confirmed or changed by a human translator).
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