Abandonment rate

[pinkyandthebrain]

IMHO I would love to see an abandonment rate (games completed versus started) added to the accept start page of a game. This would mitigate some of the frustration Hanabi (and perhaps other coop games) players feel when someone throws a tantrum over a mistake and tries to force everyone to quit against their will. We would be forewarned that there is a serial abandonner amongst us so we could choose to leave the table before the game starts to avoid hostility or expel the offender who feels that cheating your ELO system is ok should we be hosting. After all this type of behaviour is the coop version of kingmaking in a way. Currently to check if someone doesn't finish most games one had to click their profile, then scroll to click on games history, then filter for the game in question to see number of games started then finally tick the box for finished games and do a bit of mental arithmetic to get percentage completion. Would be great I'd this could appear alongside karma and elo for a fuller picture of a player.

[Silene]

In my opinion it would be better to remove the option to abandon from coop-games alltogether and implement a concede-option instead - where you can unanimously concede the game and get appropriate ELO-loss. Or just give the ELO-loss when using abandon.

There's a lot of bullying around abandonning, which is hard to report because it's subtle and can't easily be pinned on a specific line in chat. People don't respect the fact that abandonning can only be done unanimously. They expect the minority press accept even though they don't want to abandon and present you as the "bad guy" if you don't go along with it.

It would be a lot easier if abandonning would be fair (loses ELO). If that was the case, it would feel more reasonable to go along with the suggestion / expectation.

Side note: Many people abandon 25-50% of their started games in Hanabi. Is that really what the abandonning-button is for?

[vichy]

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That‘s quits, and not abandons.

I was not understanding, thanks for the warning and sorry for the inconvenienc

[aesche]

Just in case you haven't seen it, maybe it will help you to see the abandonments of the last 2 months, in the profile. It's faster. In your case for example, 1 abandonment and 3 delays in 1,353 recent games. if you click on "1353 games" it appears when and in which game it was.

That‘s quits, and not abandons. Abandons only show under „show game history“.

I strongly agree that something should be done against such behaviour in hanabi / co-op games.