Ze Monstah wrote: ↑30 November 2021, 20:26
Zothi wrote: ↑29 October 2021, 22:57
Ze Monstah wrote: ↑07 October 2021, 11:07
Unless a player Red Thumbs every Arena Player in a game, except 2 or 3 friends, in order to be set up only with those 2 or 3 (a thing I personally find hard to realise), red thumbs should be respected.
As you put it: if player A hates player B (B having A red thumbed) and are set together in a 5 players arena game... if A's goal is to make B's life hell in every single Arena game (game-wise), how is your "Arena RT ignorance" helping B?
You can make someone's life hell in Arena games, without chatbox, also.
If you go RT ignorance, you must also go INCOGNITO (no names shown until the end) !!!!!!!
And I am not sure BGA has the possibility or wish, to realise this.
I think Red Thumbs should be respected anywhere on BGA, sorry.
It's not fair to disrespect them, just 'cause it happens that you are given some RTs for various reasons, and can't play Arena with those people, in order to feed your Arena Ego.
Someone doesn't like you, accept BGA rules and being Red Thumbed (again, for various reasons), and move on with this selfish nonsense.
I'm sorry, but I don't use this forum often and I only see this message now. I'll try to answer briefly.
I know for sure of at least one player (who has even won a popular Arena season) who does this regularly in order to exclude every player he's not comfortable playing with. He gives people red thumbs if they use a strategy that makes him lose.
So yeah, you've totally missed the point, and what I said is quite urgent.
We cannot have a "competitive mode" that allows people to choose their opponents legally.
Honestly, I don't care if BGA will come up with an incognito mode, or whatever else.
We just deserve an Arena mode where players have no way to cheat the system and dodge opponents.
I have not missed your point at all.
I just consider it offensive.
All I say is that you disconsider the purpose of Red Thumbs in general, based on your Arena urge, and your experience (?) with 1 player.
In real life there is a word for situations when you oblige someone to do something he/she doesn't want to.
It starts with "R".
If I don't like you, I Red Thumb you so I won't have to deal with you ever again. Actually, I will do that right now.
If I am set up with you in Arena, I will feel psychologically attacked.
And for what? Just so you can win a few points at my expense? You can win those points playing with others who like you.
Bye.
STOP FORCING PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH PLAYERS WHO ATTACKED THEM.
The RTs used for Arena dodging are just a small part of the whole mass of RTs !
Asking BGA to remove RTs in Arena, just so you can be fixed with people who don't like you, ignoring all the reasons people give Red Thumbs for, is WRONG and it is against Human Rights.
Mate, what is it not clear to you about the fact that
in a competitive ground you cannot choose your own opponents just by giving red thumbs to the other people?
I don't care if you like me or not. I don't care if maybe that day you got out of the wrong side of bed.
In a competitive ground
you cannot dodge other players.
Think if some
tennis player could decide which opponents to play with. They would choose weaker players and
win tournaments for sure.
Going back in topic,
my experience is not limited to a single player. If you read again what I wrote in the previous post, that was just a
striking example of a player doing that regularly (I've seen him giving
1 red thumb every 2 matches, on average). But, that player aside,
I've encountered other players doing the same, just not that often.
And honestly the fact that
you've just given a red thumb to a player for the only reason that
he does not agree with you (and you told the whole community about this),
tells us much more than a thousand words.
It tells us that this red thumbs feature
should be revised as soon as possible, because it is
divisive and
non-inclusive between the members of this community. It is also
uneducative, because it induces people to give red thumbs to other players for
silly reasons.
In real world,
you cannot banish people for those silly reasons. Of course, you can decide
not to invite them when you are with your friends playing board games. But
in tournaments you have to
put your grudges aside and you have to
take into account that you may have to
challenge them.
Anyways, I think this debate is becoming quite embarassing and useless. Nobody will do anything to fix the problems I've presented. So I will just give up and go back doing my job.
