Expansions, Two character choosing before the game, Leaving by purpose

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Vollys
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Expansions, Two character choosing before the game, Leaving by purpose

Post by Vollys »

Hello, the bang! after ending of beta works great.

I have some questions.
1. are you planning to add some BANG! expansions to the game for expample Wild West show, Fistful, Highnoon, The Valley of shadows?
There are many great characters and new cards to make the game better.

2. Before the game starts (in rules) player should choose from 2 characters to use.

3. Many times happened that player on last life got Banged and he left.... couple of time of waiting and the game ends with 0 points for all. Is there some posibility to make the game continue for ELO points?
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IronDaniel
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Re: Expansions, Two character choosing before the game, Leaving by purpose

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Last point is specially important, I think some players might assume that, once they're dead, nothing else needed from them. Maybe some default option, that when a dead character's time runs out it just discards and game continues normally?

Thanks! And keep up the awesome work!
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voriki
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Re: Expansions, Two character choosing before the game, Leaving by purpose

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Vollys wrote: 09 March 2022, 10:49 Hello, the bang! after ending of beta works great.

I have some questions.
1. are you planning to add some BANG! expansions to the game for expample Wild West show, Fistful, Highnoon, The Valley of shadows?
There are many great characters and new cards to make the game better.

2. Before the game starts (in rules) player should choose from 2 characters to use.

3. Many times happened that player on last life got Banged and he left.... couple of time of waiting and the game ends with 0 points for all. Is there some posibility to make the game continue for ELO points?
1. That's up to the publisher to extendthe license to include the expansions to be adapted, and for a developer to want to design it.
https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... 52&t=23474
Tisaac did a large part of the development of the game, but in the last response in the topic above he has expressed he is not interested on expanding the game.

2. Not official rules, but a highly popular house rule. Rule number 1 on BGA is that House Rules don't get adapted unless the publisher agrees.
If you claim it is in the rule, please feel free to point it out where it stands.

3. I don't understand, a game normally never ends with 0 points for all. Did you mean a player who quit the game(out of time)? Then all others win.
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Re: Expansions, Two character choosing before the game, Leaving by purpose

Post by Vollys »

voriki wrote: 09 March 2022, 17:36
Vollys wrote: 09 March 2022, 10:49 Hello, the bang! after ending of beta works great.

I have some questions.
1. are you planning to add some BANG! expansions to the game for expample Wild West show, Fistful, Highnoon, The Valley of shadows?
There are many great characters and new cards to make the game better.

2. Before the game starts (in rules) player should choose from 2 characters to use.

3. Many times happened that player on last life got Banged and he left.... couple of time of waiting and the game ends with 0 points for all. Is there some posibility to make the game continue for ELO points?
1. That's up to the publisher to extendthe license to include the expansions to be adapted, and for a developer to want to design it.
https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... 52&t=23474
Tisaac did a large part of the development of the game, but in the last response in the topic above he has expressed he is not interested on expanding the game.

2. Not official rules, but a highly popular house rule. Rule number 1 on BGA is that House Rules don't get adapted unless the publisher agrees.
If you claim it is in the rule, please feel free to point it out where it stands.

3. I don't understand, a game normally never ends with 0 points for all. Did you mean a player who quit the game(out of time)? Then all others win.
1. Ok Thanks for the answer.

2. I just read rules to make sure... It´s not a "house rule" it´s officially written in manual. "Measure all 16 cards and give everybody one, for more experienced players give everybody 2 cards to chose one" (paraphrased)

3. Yes of course I mean when somebody quit/leave the game before he dies. It ruins game for every each player no matter which role he plays.
(f.a. I played as a vice at 7 players we killed 2 bandits and when 3rd was about to die he didn´t react on BANG! he just left the game... we waited 3 more minutes till he´s time is up and then everybody was free to quit because no points + or - from the game.
Possibility to solve:
When Renegade leave: Game continues normally as bandits vs sheriff/vice-s, Renegade points down, others: depends on who win
When Sheriff leave: Bandits win, Vices no ELO down, Bandits + elo as a normal win, Sheriff elo down as a regular lose
When Bandit leave: Game contiunues at 5 players no points ELO down for other bandit.
When Vice leave: ELO down for vice at 5 players, no ELO down for sheriff
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voriki
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Re: Expansions, Two character choosing before the game, Leaving by purpose

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Vollys wrote: 09 March 2022, 18:03 3. Yes of course I mean when somebody quit/leave the game before he dies. It ruins game for every each player no matter which role he plays.
(f.a. I played as a vice at 7 players we killed 2 bandits and when 3rd was about to die he didn´t react on BANG! he just left the game... we waited 3 more minutes till he´s time is up and then everybody was free to quit because no points + or - from the game.
Possibility to solve:
When Renegade leave: Game continues normally as bandits vs sheriff/vice-s, Renegade points down, others: depends on who win
When Sheriff leave: Bandits win, Vices no ELO down, Bandits + elo as a normal win, Sheriff elo down as a regular lose
When Bandit leave: Game contiunues at 5 players no points ELO down for other bandit.
When Vice leave: ELO down for vice at 5 players, no ELO down for sheriff
Now I get it, but that's not a BANG! thing, but a BGA thing.
It's for all games, once someone leaves, the game results are neutralized. This is to keep things balanced.

If it's a 7 player game, and both deputies leave, the sheriff has no honest chance of still winning, but the game can still continue just for fun.
If the sheriff leaves, the deputies won't lose ELO either. The game does end if the sheriff left.
And Outlaws won't lose ELO either if they lose after a teammate quits.
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