About war in Ukraine

[el cosimo]

Авторитетное лицо, которое способно достать достоверную информацию и показать истину.

В истине после таких событий потом еще десятилетие будут разбираться, да не разберутся.
Я не испытываю, честно сказать, личных симпатий к Украине/США/ЕС, поэтому тоже с осторожностью стараюсь относиться к потоку информации о том, кто и что уничтожил. Тут было, есть и будет много традиционного "What about"
Но факты, который неоспоримы - это то, что Россия сейчас завела радикально националистичную и традиционалистскую риторику, окончательно противопоставила себя развитому миру, репрессирует собственных граждан и заговорила о разного рода "национал-предателях".
Лично мне не нравится, куда мы движемся идеологически, даже если вдруг допустить, что на самом деле они там ни одного мирного жителя чудесным образом не уничтожили и украинцы сами разбомбили свои города в попытках предстать жертвами, как это рассказывают провластные источники. Как минимум, если бы не было российского вторжения, не произошло бы и и этого.

One of the first normal reaction I see. At least you understand that there is something wrong when people not allowed to give an other opinion then the leader. That is the reason why I can’t understand that people support him. This proof for me that he telling lies and that they can influence people by it because you only see onesided information. If he didn’t block this, he will be stronger because then you can discuss about it and believe it.

For me, the whole fact west against east is so irritating, both sides got idiots and methods that are stupid. But always the hate between the two just because of history facts. It should better that people learn that there are differences and just accept it. But to kill innocent people (soldiers are mostly also just puppets of the leader). Because now a lot are soldier because they need to be it.

[MorganShii]

Just one number:
86.6% of Russians support the armed invasion of Russia in other European countries

Do you still believe that "almost russians are good"???

Wow, higher than we are told by russian polls simply about "support for a military operation."
How aggressive we are.
Sorry, but it looks unrepresentative at least because of using Viber, which is used by a relatively narrow audience, represented also mainly by people aged 40+. Also because of the use of formulations that in a country where you can get problems for "not supporting", look at least suspicious.
I don't know why the article focuses on this as a fact that should inspire confidence.
And to be honest, the questions are too provocative for any opinion poll. This is not normal for sociology.

[MorganShii]

That is the reason why I can’t understand that people support him.

Sometimes I think it's all kind of Stockholm syndrome for society, huh.

[dschingis27]

The linked article is ridiculous. If you subsume the answers "maybe yes", "maybe no", and "not sure" to the question "Should the Russian military force other countries to abandon their support for the Nazis in Ukraine?" into one aggregated category "support of armed invavion", yeah, totally makes you look trustworthy and not biased..

[ABY1977]

Just one number:
86.6% of Russians support the armed invasion of Russia in other European countries

Do you still believe that "almost russians are good"???

Why are you posting such nonsense here? This is stupid anti-Russian propaganda. Any use of nuclear weapons now means the end of humanity. But according to this poll, 75 percent of Russians wish the world, including themselves, to die.

[KongKing123]

This thread is derailing towards the question of how many Russians support the invasion, which is ultimately inconsequential, as long as it is a significant number (which it is).

The point is BGA is doing pretty much nothing, other than piggybacking off Asmodee's donations with a small forum post and waiving Ukrainian time penalties. Why? Ok, you don't want to ban Russian players for some nonsensical reason. What's the excuse for not doing anything else? There have been plenty of other suggestions, but even a news post on the front page is apparently too much to ask.

How many more war crimes have to be committed before BGA takes meaningful action?

Allow me to point to a board game company that does know how it's done: https://www.direwolfdigital.com/news/st ... n-ukraine/

[Cruella-Devil]

KongKing123, what you write in these FORUMS is TOXIC.

It's time BGA acted accordingly and BANNED you.

Furthermore, you are advertising another game company on here, I thought that was prohibited.

[Unabstainer]

The most adequate people are here. Thx to admins.

[Savama]

It is called “collective responsibility” on which Soviet Union insisted in Nuremberg 1945. That meant that ALL germans were guilty of Nazi crimes. The same principle must be applied concerning nowadays russian invasion in Ukraine.

All westerners, just ask yourselves how many russian anti war rallies or any protest activities have you seen during these three weeks in your countries?

Well, we can say that in russia people are afraid to protest because of police or brainwashed by propaganda. Let’s pretend it’s true. But what prevents “anti war”russians to show their attitude against the war in peaceful Europe, for example? So, it’s not the situation of “bad putin and good ordinary russians”. Who is bombing the cities, destroying villages and commiting all possible war crimes? Not putin himself but all your “good ordinary russians”.

Yes, some individuals like hypothetical mr. ivanov can be wholeheartedly against the war. I’m really sorry mr. ivanov, but it’s called collective responsibility. And if you, western people, are still thinking about why russians in Europe are not en masse protesting against the war, I could give you a hint. They expected to conquer Ukraine in 3 days or a week and nobody would say a word. But luckily that didn’t happen.

After the EU/US sanctions hit them hard (and more to come) all the russians miraculously opened their eyes and “saw the war”. That war started in 2014, now you just see its most gruesome phase. All of this time they’ve been waiting for the result of the war. Seeing that they will lose, russians started finding excuses, declaring their anti war positions, though at the same time posting things like “I’m not sure about it, too much fakes” and so on. Pathetic. Pathetic hypocrisy.

Remember, it is called collective responsibility. Get ready.

Let me tell you that it’s 25th day of war. This night in Kharkiv, after the shelling 5 civilians were killed and one of them was a 9-years boy who’ll never have a chance to play on BGA.

[KongKing123]

KongKing123, what you write in these FORUMS is TOXIC.

It's time BGA acted accordingly and BANNED you.

Please do continue trolling. Maybe you can try bringing up Covid again?

Furthermore, you are advertising another game company on here, I thought that was prohibited.

Only other board game sites similar to BGA. This is a card game publisher and digital board game developer.