About war in Ukraine

[Anoburp]

Perfect! BGA is nothing but a pink fluffy unicorn-pegasus that poos rainbow candy for all to eat.
Not like FIFA and UEFA, who have banned Russian players from participating in the biggest sporting events in the world, shame on them?

[dschingis27]

Not like FIFA and UEFA, who have banned Russian players from participating in the biggest sporting events in the world, shame on them?

Why would you even remotely compare this to BGA? FIFA/UEFA have not prohibited that Russian people play football with people from other countries. Guess what, you can play football on a non-official level. And that is the level where BGA operates.

[xxerox]

i was chat banned for saying mod bad in forums /shrugs/ if they earn money and no one personally offends them they can do whatever they want. Russians give money and play on the site? Then they are right and everyone is wrong.

P.S. Same goes for cheaters, point abusers, mechanic abusers and etc.

[mrdoctor]

If I'm playing with a Russian player, I'm not going to instigate a conversation about Ukraine with them. Whilst we are unlikely to have the same thoughts on it, I'm very much aware that a random Russian citizen (who's presumably sat at home, not actively fighting) will have been exposed to propaganda and official-messaging that I'm not privy to, nor would I expect them to risk being picked up by their state surveillance for typing anti-Russian sentiments online to a random stranger on BGA.

Likewise, I'm aware that as a Brit, there are many countries in the world who see my country as an aggressive agitator (and substantially more who see the USA as such), and some conflicts will still be ongoing, or have the UK involved by proxy. I'd hope that BGA players wouldn't try and hold me - a random pacifistic citizen - to account over the actions of the government I happen to live under.

[Pushkiin]

If I'm playing with a Russian player, I'm not going to instigate a conversation about Ukraine with them. Whilst we are unlikely to have the same thoughts on it, I'm very much aware that a random Russian citizen (who's presumably sat at home, not actively fighting) will have been exposed to propaganda and official-messaging that I'm not privy to, nor would I expect them to risk being picked up by their state surveillance for typing anti-Russian sentiments online to a random stranger on BGA.

Likewise, I'm aware that as a Brit, there are many countries in the world who see my country as an aggressive agitator (and substantially more who see the USA as such), and some conflicts will still be ongoing, or have the UK involved by proxy. I'd hope that BGA players wouldn't try and hold me - a random pacifistic citizen - to account over the actions of the government I happen to live under.

Russia is more than "aggressive agitator" Russia has committed genocide in Ukraine and war crimes, Russian soldiers were systematically raping women, pillaging and killing civilians. On the main Russian state TV your country (UK) was been threaten several times to be annihilated by an underwater nuclear bomb and other nuclear weapons. Large majority of Russians support Putin and think what was done is justified.

[voriki]

If I'm playing with a Russian player, I'm not going to instigate a conversation about Ukraine with them. Whilst we are unlikely to have the same thoughts on it, I'm very much aware that a random Russian citizen (who's presumably sat at home, not actively fighting) will have been exposed to propaganda and official-messaging that I'm not privy to, nor would I expect them to risk being picked up by their state surveillance for typing anti-Russian sentiments online to a random stranger on BGA.

Likewise, I'm aware that as a Brit, there are many countries in the world who see my country as an aggressive agitator (and substantially more who see the USA as such), and some conflicts will still be ongoing, or have the UK involved by proxy. I'd hope that BGA players wouldn't try and hold me - a random pacifistic citizen - to account over the actions of the government I happen to live under.

Russia is more than "aggressive agitator" Russia has committed genocide in Ukraine and war crimes, Russian soldiers were systematically raping women, pillaging and killing civilians. On the main Russian state TV your country (UK) was been threaten several times to be annihilated by an underwater nuclear bomb and other nuclear weapons. Large majority of Russians support Putin and think what was done is justified.

You are confusing the entity "Russia" and "individual Russian players", emphasis on the word 'invidual'

[Pushkiin]

You are confusing the entity "Russia" and "individual Russian players", emphasis on the word 'invidual'

I'm not confusing anything, if large majority of Russians did not support Putin maybe we will be having a different conversation. Even in this thread the support of the Russian flag among Russian players while genocide, rape, pillaging and war is going in Ukraine, is clearly indicative that there is something wrong in terms of how Russian folks think about the war and what they can do about it. They say, they are not responsible but still associate themselves with the Russian state flag in the name of which war crimes are committed.

The fact that Russian players are not willing to make even minimal concessions on BGA is also indicative of their interest and sincerity to stop the war. They don't understand that anti-war movements also require symbols and using white-blue-white flag is one of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-blue-white_flag

[mrdoctor]

If I'm playing with a Russian player, I'm not going to instigate a conversation about Ukraine with them. Whilst we are unlikely to have the same thoughts on it, I'm very much aware that a random Russian citizen (who's presumably sat at home, not actively fighting) will have been exposed to propaganda and official-messaging that I'm not privy to, nor would I expect them to risk being picked up by their state surveillance for typing anti-Russian sentiments online to a random stranger on BGA.

Likewise, I'm aware that as a Brit, there are many countries in the world who see my country as an aggressive agitator (and substantially more who see the USA as such), and some conflicts will still be ongoing, or have the UK involved by proxy. I'd hope that BGA players wouldn't try and hold me - a random pacifistic citizen - to account over the actions of the government I happen to live under.

Russia is more than "aggressive agitator" Russia has committed genocide in Ukraine and war crimes, Russian soldiers were systematically raping women, pillaging and killing civilians. On the main Russian state TV your country (UK) was been threaten several times to be annihilated by an underwater nuclear bomb and other nuclear weapons. Large majority of Russians support Putin and think what was done is justified.

Likewise, many round the world also see the USA and the UK (and other Western nations) as active belligerents.

Again, I'm in no way defending Russia, but I recognise that Russians are not a monolith/hivemind, and I do not hold each of the 145-million inhabitants accountable for the actions of their government and military. I also don't presume to know what random citizens know of the actions of their soldiers abroad.

I'm most likely not replying any further on this topic. Peace

[papoufette]

Je viens d'être soumis à une pénalité pour avoir dit à un russe ce qu'il en était, il me semblait pourtant que devant les mensonges qu'on leur délivre dans leur média, il n'était pas inutile qu'ils sachent comment cette guerre était perçue dans le monde extérieur, je ne retire donc rien à ce que je leur ais dit, je n'ai donc pas coché la case disant: "je le referais plus" et je tiens à signaler qu'une fois ça les a fait rire!!!! sans commentaire

[tboard]

I just came across a video that I found to be very disturbing. In the video, a group of Russian soldiers came across some Ukrainian civilians outside of their home. The Russians assured the Ukrainians that they don't kill civilians. They talked a while and smoked some cigarettes together. As the Russian soldiers appeared to be leaving, 2 stayed behind with guns drawn and murdered all the Ukrainians they had encountered. Only one man survived, and it is from him that this story was told. I was skeptical at first when I heard about it, but the surveillance video seems to support the man's story. Are Russians really this cruel? I understand that there is propaganda on our side too, but there is video evidence to support what happened here.