Removing Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven Option

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KuonGK
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Removing Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven Option

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As in the Oceania Expansion Variant, I would prefer an option removing Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven.
Basically they are auto-win cards.
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Lumin_S
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Re: Removing Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven Option

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Everyone who agrees should vote here: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=69861

And if anyone has a connection to the publisher or designer, please talk to them about this, having their approval for implementing a banlist is critical for getting it onto BGA.
bananasplay
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Re: Removing Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven Option

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Lumin_S wrote: 13 September 2022, 03:33 Everyone who agrees should vote here: https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=69861
Yes, but how does one go about registering disagreement? :-p
Please check my profile for a list of bugs that need upvotes so that BGA will maybe get around to fixing them.
msdrahcir
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Re: Removing Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven Option

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How is this any different than other community game variants - for example, switching factory / university costs in Puerto Rico?

Still not necessarily a fan - as Oceania gets added this variant makes less sense or should include the first round exclusion of other cards
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wentley
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Re: Removing Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven Option

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Its different, because you're not changing rules, or using different expansions, you're removing specific cards! Which are certainly not auto-wins if they come out late in the game, and probably not autowins either for certain players. Its often the combo of say Raven and Killdeer/Francis Gull that is close to an unstoppable powerhouse.

I mean where does it stop, will someone then want to take out the next most powerful card ... in their opinion?

The problem might be solved, by adding the Euro expansion, and maybe others, which will reduce the chance of these combos occurring, and add extra strategic options, not necessarily focused around a grasslands egg generation engine.

Plus if you see Killdeer/Francis Gull/Ravens and the other one I can't remember, try to get them first! Or don't let someone take both if possible!
Anyway luck is a factor in the game, although it may be reduced by seeing more cards ... in itself a strategy.
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paramesis
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Re: Removing Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven Option

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I have spoken with the publisher, who has approved of a game option on BGA to exclude the Chihuahuan Raven, Common Raven, Franklin's Gull, and Killdeer from the bird deck. This has now been implemented.
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Lumin_S
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Re: Removing Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven Option

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paramesis wrote: 14 September 2022, 10:23 I have spoken with the publisher, who has approved of a game option on BGA to exclude the Chihuahuan Raven, Common Raven, Franklin's Gull, and Killdeer from the bird deck. This has now been implemented.
Amazing, thanks!

Would be great if this was the Arena option too :)
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