Hello admins,
As I work on translations / bugs / wiki I visit the games page regulary. The first 3 categories are fine by me, even though the category of recommendation is stuck on 4 games i do not plan on playing (no idea where these are based on
, i do like perudo though but well only when i can see some faces and hear some voices ).
Anyway recommendations is followed by Newest games and most popular games so these are interesting lists for new players. After that it becomes a bit chaotic. Some of you might not agree with me on this, and i'm not here to try to convince you to turn or anything its all matter of personal opinion. In any case my problems are the following:
1st: when i'm with a group of friends we judge whether we play a game, or not, based on, the amount of players the game supports (can we all join in!) and the time it takes to finish the game. These two categories are just missing/not complete. There is a category for soloplay (which has 1 game) and there is a category for 2 player games. The funny thing is that this category for 2 players also lists games that support more then 2 players (RftG, time masters, haggis, tournay) while a whole bunch or 2 player games only are not listed. Yes RftG may be favored for playing with 2 players only on this site but it's not a 2 player game by definition.
Time categories are also funny. we have Short games (lists 1 game) average games (lists 6 games) and long games >30 minutes (lists 2 games). As the last category implies that all games with a duration of 30 minutes till infinity should be listed here it makes me curious how only a total of 9 games are listed in these 3 categories. Does this mean that the rest of the 52 games take less then 0 minutes?
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2nd: a lot of categories only have 1 or 2 games listed and can as such imho be deleted from the categorie list. It is good that you try to divide the games up by mechanics and such but if lots of mechanics only have a single game in them it become an immense long scrolling lists, rather make a category Remainder or something like that. (i'd only give an exception for the solo play and 3 player game). Example: There is a category Adventure and a catagory Explore 1 and 2 games, can we not just lists these 3 games under the same category of adventure?
3rd: Do you know that the last category (all games) resets and has a different order each time you refresh/load the page. Imo especially for this category it is nice if all games are just listed alphabetical, period.
4th: Can some of the catagories titles please consist of more then one word. After 8 masters revenge was released a new category was made called: Prototype. (listing only 1 game 8 masters revenge). I really have no clue what this category means at all
Same for battle sheep being the single game in Conquer (how is game to be put in a category conquer and not in the category majority? which i'd call something like: Own a majority to win). Especially after translating these single words it sometimes leads to random a Dutch words that makes even less sense
5th: Can there be categories or headings of categories, you list games on themes, mechanics, players, time, which is good but somewhat unclear (especially with the one worded categories) whether its revering to a theme or a mechanic (take Race for example, does this list games with a racing theme or is it refering to the mechanic of being the first to achieve the goal and win the game?). Most are listed in sequence (all on time, theme etc), but my point is that its not clear when switching from one group of categories to the next .
6th: As you have a category for Awarded games, i made you a category for games with a rating of 7+ on BGG.
I took liberty of making you the lists of the games. The time ones are based (As much as possible on the BGA average times) and the amount of players based on the amount of players listed on BGA. I put it in the code window to prevent from exploding this post. I stole the Game id's with firebug. Don't know if that would help in the event you'd decide there is time and you feel like i made a point! . Also added the list of games with Id's in alphabetical order.
It is hard to categorize the games by mechanic and even harder to do so by theme. I tried but i gave up as the list of categories would just expand and expand . So yeah i'll might rethink them at a later time.
Became a bit of a long post. But well i think your game page should be a nice business card to players interested in joining and provide a good overview for active members. At the moment i personally just think it looks a bit messy/incomplete. (No offence!) But well i'd enjoy it if you'd have some time and look into it. I once read a post that you had remoddeled the page to its current state removing the all games and from that discussion the all games was readded. Cannot find that post anymore :S. So if i'm saying stuff that had been discussed there already my appologies.
Cheers,
Sawyer
As I work on translations / bugs / wiki I visit the games page regulary. The first 3 categories are fine by me, even though the category of recommendation is stuck on 4 games i do not plan on playing (no idea where these are based on
, i do like perudo though but well only when i can see some faces and hear some voices ).Anyway recommendations is followed by Newest games and most popular games so these are interesting lists for new players. After that it becomes a bit chaotic. Some of you might not agree with me on this, and i'm not here to try to convince you to turn or anything its all matter of personal opinion. In any case my problems are the following:
1st: when i'm with a group of friends we judge whether we play a game, or not, based on, the amount of players the game supports (can we all join in!) and the time it takes to finish the game. These two categories are just missing/not complete. There is a category for soloplay (which has 1 game) and there is a category for 2 player games. The funny thing is that this category for 2 players also lists games that support more then 2 players (RftG, time masters, haggis, tournay) while a whole bunch or 2 player games only are not listed. Yes RftG may be favored for playing with 2 players only on this site but it's not a 2 player game by definition.
Time categories are also funny. we have Short games (lists 1 game) average games (lists 6 games) and long games >30 minutes (lists 2 games). As the last category implies that all games with a duration of 30 minutes till infinity should be listed here it makes me curious how only a total of 9 games are listed in these 3 categories. Does this mean that the rest of the 52 games take less then 0 minutes?
.2nd: a lot of categories only have 1 or 2 games listed and can as such imho be deleted from the categorie list. It is good that you try to divide the games up by mechanics and such but if lots of mechanics only have a single game in them it become an immense long scrolling lists, rather make a category Remainder or something like that. (i'd only give an exception for the solo play and 3 player game). Example: There is a category Adventure and a catagory Explore 1 and 2 games, can we not just lists these 3 games under the same category of adventure?
3rd: Do you know that the last category (all games) resets and has a different order each time you refresh/load the page. Imo especially for this category it is nice if all games are just listed alphabetical, period.
4th: Can some of the catagories titles please consist of more then one word. After 8 masters revenge was released a new category was made called: Prototype. (listing only 1 game 8 masters revenge). I really have no clue what this category means at all
Same for battle sheep being the single game in Conquer (how is game to be put in a category conquer and not in the category majority? which i'd call something like: Own a majority to win). Especially after translating these single words it sometimes leads to random a Dutch words that makes even less sense 5th: Can there be categories or headings of categories, you list games on themes, mechanics, players, time, which is good but somewhat unclear (especially with the one worded categories) whether its revering to a theme or a mechanic (take Race for example, does this list games with a racing theme or is it refering to the mechanic of being the first to achieve the goal and win the game?
). Most are listed in sequence (all on time, theme etc), but my point is that its not clear when switching from one group of categories to the next .6th: As you have a category for Awarded games, i made you a category for games with a rating of 7+ on BGG.
I took liberty of making you the lists of the games. The time ones are based (As much as possible on the BGA average times) and the amount of players based on the amount of players listed on BGA. I put it in the code window to prevent from exploding this post
. I stole the Game id's with firebug. Don't know if that would help in the event you'd decide there is time and you feel like i made a point! . Also added the list of games with Id's in alphabetical order.Code: Select all
Games for solo play:
71 Thermopyles
Games for 2 players:
25 China Gold
23 Dragonheart
28 Gomoku
32 Gygès
1007 Hex
79 Hive
33 Jaipur
5 Kahuna
1010 Kalah
57 Neutreeko
63 Pylos
39 Quarto
43 Quoridor
35 Reversi
54 Senet
69 Targi
Games for up to 3 players:
16 Haggis
Games for up to 4 players:
15 Amyitis
1005 Armadöra
47 Battle Sheep
11 Can't Stop
1012 8 Master's revenge
41 Expedition: Northwest Passage
17 Gosu
36 Hearts
10 Race for the Galaxy
30 Seasons
75 Sobek
13 Stone Age
37 Takenoko
1011 Through the Ages
1004 Time Masters
18 Tobago
45 Tournay
20 Troyes
80 Tzolk'in
19 Uncle Chesnut's Table Gype
31 United Square
Games for up to 5 players:
29 Caylus
27 Color Pop
2 Coloretto
21 Diam's
22 Hawaii
26 In the Year of the Dragon
55 Machiavelli
38 Niagara
14 Puerto Rico
1002 Spyrium
34 The Boss
1006 The Jelly Monster Lab
1003 Tokaido
49 Yahtzee
Games for up to 6 players:
51 Cinco
64 Elfenland
67 Gear & Piston
56 Libertalia
58 Perudo
1009 Twin Tin Bots
Games for up to 10 players:
24 Saboteur
1008 Take 5!
Average times on BGA are mostly based on 2 players.
Short games (<10 minutes)
11 Can't Stop
51 Cinco
27 Color Pop
23 Dragonheart
28 Gomoku
32 Gygès
1007 Hex
1010 Kalah
57 Neutreeko
63 Pylos
39 Quarto
43 Quoridor
10 Race for the Galaxy
35 Reversi
71 Thermopyles
31 United Square
49 Yahtzee
Average game (11-25 minutes)
1008 6 Nimmt!/Take 5!
1012 8 Master's revenge
1005 Armadöra
47 Battle Sheep
25 China Gold
2 Coloretto
21 Diam's
67 Gear & Piston
17 Gosu
16 Haggis
22 Hawaii
36 Hearts
79 Hive
26 In the Year of the Dragon
33 Jaipur
5 Kahuna
56 Libertalia
38 Niagara
58 Perudo
30 Seasons
54 Senet
37 Takenoko
34 The Boss
1003 Tokaido
Long games (>25 minutes)
15 Amyitis
29 Caylus
64 Elfenland
41 Expedition: Northwest Passage
55 Machiavelli
14 Puerto Rico
24 Saboteur
1002 Spyrium
13 Stone Age
69 Targi
1006 The Jelly Monster Lab
1011 Through the Ages
1004 Time Masters
18 Tobago
45 Tournay
20 Troyes
1009 Twin Tin Bots
80 Tzolk'in
19 Uncle Chesnut's Table Gype
Games with a 7+ rating on BGG:
34 The Boss
15 Amyitis
16 Haggis
18 Tobago
45 Tournay
41 Expedition: Northwest Passage
1004 Time Masters
56 Libertalia
22 Hawaii
79 Hive
1012 8 Master's revenge
1002 Spyrium
37 Takenoko
26 In the Year of the Dragon
30 Seasons
33 Jaipur
69 Targi
13 Stone Age
20 Troyes
10 Race for the Galaxy
29 Caylus
80 Tzolk'in
14 Puerto Rico
1011 Through the Ages
All games Alphabetical:
1008 6 nimmt!/take5!
1012 8 Master's revenge
15 Amyitis
1005 Armadöra
47 Battle Sheep
11 Can't Stop
29 Caylus
25 China Gold
51 Cinco
27 Color Pop
2 Coloretto
21 Diam's
23 Dragonheart
64 Elfenland
41 Expedition: Northwest Passage
67 Gear & Piston
28 Gomoku
17 Gosu
32 Gygès
16 Haggis
22 Hawaii
36 Hearts
1007 Hex
79 Hive
26 In the Year of the Dragon
33 Jaipur
5 Kahuna
1010 Kalah
56 Libertalia
55 Machiavelli
57 Neutreeko
38 Niagara
58 Perudo
14 Puerto Rico
63 Pylos
39 Quarto
43 Quoridor
10 Race for the Galaxy
35 Reversi
24 Saboteur
30 Seasons
54 Senet
75 Sobek
1002 Spyrium
13 Stone Age
37 Takenoko
69 Targi
34 The Boss
1006 The Jelly Monster Lab
71 Thermopyles
1011 Through the Ages
1004 Time Masters
18 Tobago
1003 Tokaido
45 Tournay
20 Troyes
1009 Twin Tin Bots
80 Tzolk'in
19 Uncle Chesnut's Table Gype
31 United Square
49 Yahtzee
Became a bit of a long post. But well i think your game page should be a nice business card to players interested in joining and provide a good overview for active members. At the moment i personally just think it looks a bit messy/incomplete. (No offence!
) But well i'd enjoy it if you'd have some time and look into it. I once read a post that you had remoddeled the page to its current state removing the all games and from that discussion the all games was readded. Cannot find that post anymore :S. So if i'm saying stuff that had been discussed there already my appologies.Cheers,
Sawyer
. (as only optioned not mentioned are negative times!)
