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D1EGO84
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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winneringame wrote: 27 May 2024, 08:40 我想你們是在討論我與我家人的帳號,而我本人有借用我家人的帳號在(七大奇蹟對決)的競技場中遊玩,並且將我與家人的帳號都進入到了該遊戲的前十名位置,那我想問的是,我有違反BGA的規定嗎? 假如BGA規定單一ip位置只能使用一個帳號,那可以,你就把我共同ip的帳號封鎖,但我家中每一隻帳號皆有贊助網站,請將我一直以來的贊助退還給我,如果BGA沒有這樣的規定,我想發文者與烏龜頭像的玩家該向我和我的家人道歉,因為我們毫無使用作弊之行為進行遊戲,你們可以去查閱我每一場競技場中的遊戲有無在相同ip位置,能達到這些帳號都排在競技場前幾名是我的實力所致,你們若有實力,可以自行增加實力搶奪排名,甚至剛好與我相遇對戰,如果你們實力勝過我,自然能從我手中拿走積分,不過在這之前,請你們向我與家人道歉,針對你們說我們使用作弊方式進行遊戲與查閱我個人隱私ip 位置的部份!
If so, why change the flag immediately after my post? Doing so makes it seem like you have something to hide. However I never said you were cheating I just said that using multi accounts is unfair, it's not the same thing. When I talked about accounts that cheated I wasn't referring to yours but to an account that won arena a couple of seasons ago. They left him the victory but only took away his ELO
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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winneringame wrote: 27 May 2024, 08:40 我想你們是在討論我與我家人的帳號,而我本人有借用我家人的帳號在(七大奇蹟對決)的競技場中遊玩,並且將我與家人的帳號都進入到了該遊戲的前十名位置,那我想問的是,我有違反BGA的規定嗎? 假如BGA規定單一ip位置只能使用一個帳號,那可以,你就把我共同ip的帳號封鎖,但我家中每一隻帳號皆有贊助網站,請將我一直以來的贊助退還給我,如果BGA沒有這樣的規定,我想發文者與烏龜頭像的玩家該向我和我的家人道歉,因為我們毫無使用作弊之行為進行遊戲,你們可以去查閱我每一場競技場中的遊戲有無在相同ip位置,能達到這些帳號都排在競技場前幾名是我的實力所致,你們若有實力,可以自行增加實力搶奪排名,甚至剛好與我相遇對戰,如果你們實力勝過我,自然能從我手中拿走積分,不過在這之前,請你們向我與家人道歉,針對你們說我們使用作弊方式進行遊戲與查閱我個人隱私ip 位置的部份!
I also find it very strange that you don't have friendship between you if you are actually different people. If it were true I think you would have played some friendly games between yourselves.
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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1.我昨天就有看到你的貼文,本來我是不想回應,但我看到了你們一些懷疑我使用非法手段進行遊戲的部分,並且是在講我與家人的帳號,我選擇更改國籍,不想讓和我進行遊戲的玩家,認為我是那樣的人,事實上我也沒有使用非法手段,但後來我看見了你查詢我IP位置的部分,我不知道這是使用非法還是合法的手段,在我看來這應該只有BGA官方能夠進行查詢,那如果我不做一些回應,我擔心你們是否會洩漏我的其他隱私於網路上。

2.事實上這些帳號雖然各屬我與家人,但相對熱衷於這款遊戲的只有我,如果你們認為是我持有了多個帳號進行遊戲,我不反對這樣的意見,但我也就只是想將我們的帳號都能夠排在前十名,這是一種虛榮心,我想你們也是會在意這樣的名次才會有這篇文章,但我不認為這是一個非法的行為,甚至你可以看到很多有ELO制度的遊戲,玩家都不會只有一個帳號,例如知名遊戲《英雄聯盟 League of Legends》,很多職業玩家與主播也是使用多個帳號進行積分對戰,如果你們會在乎能否在賽季末排在前十名,其實你們也可以選擇使用不只一個帳號進行遊玩,因為你就算有實力也很難保證在結算當天能落在前十名吧? 你可能那陣子狀況不好。 你們可以選擇自己只玩一個帳號,但很多玩家在很多遊戲中都不只使用一個帳號進行遊戲,我想這只是個人的選擇,只要不是使用非法手段進行遊戲。

3.如果你們不是在說我使用作弊的方式進行遊戲,我是可以接受的,我與你說到的先前玩家不同,我認為那是沒有成就感的事,我不會選擇那樣做。
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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winneringame wrote: 27 May 2024, 13:46 1.我昨天就有看到你的貼文,本來我是不想回應,但我看到了你們一些懷疑我使用非法手段進行遊戲的部分,並且是在講我與家人的帳號,我選擇更改國籍,不想讓和我進行遊戲的玩家,認為我是那樣的人,事實上我也沒有使用非法手段,但後來我看見了你查詢我IP位置的部分,我不知道這是使用非法還是合法的手段,在我看來這應該只有BGA官方能夠進行查詢,那如果我不做一些回應,我擔心你們是否會洩漏我的其他隱私於網路上。

2.事實上這些帳號雖然各屬我與家人,但相對熱衷於這款遊戲的只有我,如果你們認為是我持有了多個帳號進行遊戲,我不反對這樣的意見,但我也就只是想將我們的帳號都能夠排在前十名,這是一種虛榮心,我想你們也是會在意這樣的名次才會有這篇文章,但我不認為這是一個非法的行為,甚至你可以看到很多有ELO制度的遊戲,玩家都不會只有一個帳號,例如知名遊戲《英雄聯盟 League of Legends》,很多職業玩家與主播也是使用多個帳號進行積分對戰,如果你們會在乎能否在賽季末排在前十名,其實你們也可以選擇使用不只一個帳號進行遊玩,因為你就算有實力也很難保證在結算當天能落在前十名吧? 你可能那陣子狀況不好。 你們可以選擇自己只玩一個帳號,但很多玩家在很多遊戲中都不只使用一個帳號進行遊戲,我想這只是個人的選擇,只要不是使用非法手段進行遊戲。

3.如果你們不是在說我使用作弊的方式進行遊戲,我是可以接受的,我與你說到的先前玩家不同,我認為那是沒有成就感的事,我不會選擇那樣做。
I didn't ask for information. just invite 2 accounts to a game together and if the IP is the same BGA reports it. However, I think that the same player cannot play in Arena with multiple accounts as it is a competitive mode.
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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Hi winneringame, and thanks for answering the thread. If you read carefully, I didn't accuse you (or anyone else) of cheating, nor I was saying that you don't deserve your ranking!

Using more than one account in a single Arena season is a behaviour that has always been tolerated by BGA as far as I know, but still I don't really like it and I was expressing my wish for it to be at least officially forbidden (then, we all know it would be very difficult to prove it when it happens).

Also don't worry, your IP is not public. What is public information on BGA is whether different accounts are playing from the same IP. If you don't like this info to be public, complain with BGA, not with me or Diego.

As for the reasons that pushed you to do play with multiple accounts, I ask you to try to reconsider them. If you have one account in the top 10, everybody knows that you could probably reach the same ranking with 2, 4 or even more accounts: there is really no need to prove it!
By doing so, you are just clogging the standings and making them less meaningful. Think about what would happen if we all did so :?

We are currently more or less in the middle of the season. It would be nice if you picked only one of those accounts to play from now on.
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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Arrigo II wrote: 27 May 2024, 18:29 Hi winneringame, and thanks for answering the thread. If you read carefully, I didn't accuse you (or anyone else) of cheating, nor I was saying that you don't deserve your ranking!

Using more than one account in a single Arena season is a behaviour that has always been tolerated by BGA as far as I know, but still I don't really like it and I was expressing my wish for it to be at least officially forbidden (then, we all know it would be very difficult to prove it when it happens).

Also don't worry, your IP is not public. What is public information on BGA is whether different accounts are playing from the same IP. If you don't like this info to be public, complain with BGA, not with me or Diego.

As for the reasons that pushed you to do play with multiple accounts, I ask you to try to reconsider them. If you have one account in the top 10, everybody knows that you could probably reach the same ranking with 2, 4 or even more accounts: there is really no need to prove it!
By doing so, you are just clogging the standings and making them less meaningful. Think about what would happen if we all did so :?

We are currently more or less in the middle of the season. It would be nice if you picked only one of those accounts to play from now on.
In fact, if everyone uses more accounts to play games, maybe the revenue of the website will increase, and maybe the ranking of the arena will be more competitive, but the world already has excessive competition in many fields. If you want to get certain achievements , you can only work harder than others, otherwise you have to give up something. This is how the world works, isn't it?
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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If everyone used 100 accounts, the first 100 places would be for player 1, the next 100 places for player 2, the next for player 3, etc. (assuming perfect ranking, of course).

Anyway, seeing the name of an account you created in some webpage has the importance that it has...
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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From the Terms of Use page
• not to create several Accounts: the User undertakes to create only one Account corresponding to them. If BGA deletes a User's Account in the event of non-compliance with these Player G.T.S., the User undertakes not to create another Account without prior authorisation from BGA;
The precedent has been set in Azul. One account per player. Feel free to report any multiple accounts and BGA will deal with it.
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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winneringame wrote: 27 May 2024, 08:40 我想你們是在討論我與我家人的帳號,而我本人有借用我家人的帳號在(七大奇蹟對決)的競技場中遊玩,並且將我與家人的帳號都進入到了該遊戲的前十名位置,那我想問的是,我有違反BGA的規定嗎? 假如BGA規定單一ip位置只能使用一個帳號,那可以,你就把我共同ip的帳號封鎖,但我家中每一隻帳號皆有贊助網站,請將我一直以來的贊助退還給我,如果BGA沒有這樣的規定,我想發文者與烏龜頭像的玩家該向我和我的家人道歉,因為我們毫無使用作弊之行為進行遊戲,你們可以去查閱我每一場競技場中的遊戲有無在相同ip位置,能達到這些帳號都排在競技場前幾名是我的實力所致,你們若有實力,可以自行增加實力搶奪排名,甚至剛好與我相遇對戰,如果你們實力勝過我,自然能從我手中拿走積分,不過在這之前,請你們向我與家人道歉,針對你們說我們使用作弊方式進行遊戲與查閱我個人隱私ip 位置的部份!
:!: Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta :!:
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Re: Multi accounts in the Arena

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To be perfectly clear:

Using more than one account to play in ranked games (Arena or normal games for ELO) is prohibited in our Terms of Use.

Allowing other players to login and play games from your account is prohibited as well by our Terms of Use.

Players caught cheating to increase their ELO / Arena Ranking / the rankings of others will be moderated.
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