Question about Quantum

[Tragic]

In Quantum, shouldn't you be able to use the "2" ship as a free action with out moving it?



• I am trying to construct a cube on a 8 planet.
• I already have the 5 there.
• I have the power "Ingenious" in play (Allows construction from diagonals as well as orthogonal planet docks)

Now.... shouldn't I be able to:

Action 1) - Move the "3" next to the "2"
Free Action "2") - Use the "2" ability to pick up the three and deposit it into the top right diagonal slot of the planet
Action 2+3) - Construct the Cube

That should be total legal right?

But as far as I can tell the site is forcing me to actually "move" the "2". It will not let me just pick up and put down as a free action. It is requiring me to pick up the three and then move the 2 before I can drop it off.

That is not correct right?

Video of the problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FFLyy_D9Qk

[squarerootofthree]

Hi. The rules for the game state for your 2-ship's special ability:

Place one of your ships that is in any surrounding space on top of the flagship. Then use the flagship’s move action to move the flagship 1 or 2 spaces. Finally, place the transported ship in any empty surrounding space. A flagship cannot attack if it transports, but a transported ship CAN move and attack normally after it is dropped off.

So the 2-ship special ability requires a move action, much like the 5-ship. You ARE allowed to move out and back to the same space such that your 2-ship doesn't move while transporting but this correctly costs you a movement action.

[DaleB147]

The "2" Flagship's ability is "carry as you move." It picks up a ship, moves 1 or 2 spaces, then puts the transported ship in an empty surrounding space. That's a paraphrase, but it's right in the rules.

Other ships' special abilities work differently. The "1" Battleship rules are that it can move/attack normally, then use Strike for a second attack on the same turn. The "3" Destroyer specifically says the Warp does not count as the destroyer's move. And so on.

[Tragic]

Right... so the "ship action" for the Transport (2pip ship) requires a additional move action. So using the "2" will always use a move action, even if you choose not to move the ship. This also means you are unable to use the "2" ship special action unless you have a full standard action in reserve for the "move".

Seams like I have been playing this wrong the entire time (I have had the physical game from release).

I always played that the "2" transport action wasa free action separate to the move action. So you could on Action 1 use the "2" to move a cube 3 diagonal spaces. x -> 2 -> x and still have 3 standard actions left.

Interesting.. this really effects what I have always considered to be one of the most powerful ships in the game. Still very strong but not remotely as strong.

[squarerootofthree]

Interesting.. this really effects what I have always considered to be one of the most powerful ships in the game. Still very strong but not remotely as strong.

I think the 2-ship is still the most valuable and versatile ship in the game, though. With the ability to transport without using an action, it would have gotten downright ridiculous.

Without a 2, you can't construct a cube on your first turn. 2 ships are very strong at attacking. And, the transport action can effectively carry another ship (such as a 1-ship) up to 6 total spaces, so it greatly increases your maneuverability.

[Tragic]

yeah I agree the #2 is defiantly a extremely strong ship. Not very useful for construction though!