About the number of people sitting at the table at the same time(同時に卓を立てる数について)

[Iam30yen]

In the FAQ, it says, "In order to make it easier to find your opponent, we recommend waiting at multiple tables instead of waiting at one table.'' However, how many tables should I actually set up?
So, I would like to ask someone who is familiar with BGA (especially someone who can restrict access, etc.), what is the maximum number of tables that can be built with one account? Is it about 20?
thank you.

（よくある質問にて「対戦相手を見つけやすくするためには、1つのテーブルで待機するのではなく、複数のテーブルで待機することをおすすめします。」と書いてありますが、実際のところどのくらいテーブルを立てて良いのでしょうか？
そこでBGAに詳しい方（特にアクセス制限などが出来る方）にお聞きしたいのですが、1アカウントで建てていいテーブルって最大どれぐらいですか？20ぐらいですか？
よろしくお願いします。）

[Meeplelowda]

In the FAQ, it says, "In order to make it easier to find your opponent, we recommend waiting at multiple tables instead of waiting at one table.'' However, how many tables should I actually set up?
So, I would like to ask someone who is familiar with BGA (especially someone who can restrict access, etc.), what is the maximum number of tables that can be built with one account? Is it about 20?
thank you.

（よくある質問にて「対戦相手を見つけやすくするためには、1つのテーブルで待機するのではなく、複数のテーブルで待機することをおすすめします。」と書いてありますが、実際のところどのくらいテーブルを立てて良いのでしょうか？
そこでBGAに詳しい方（特にアクセス制限などが出来る方）にお聞きしたいのですが、1アカウントで建てていいテーブルって最大どれぐらいですか？20ぐらいですか？
よろしくお願いします。）

What is the downside to making as many as you want? If you hit a limit, then you'll know what the limit is. As the FAQ says, once one table starts, you will be removed from all the others.

By the way, it only makes sense to make multiple tables that differ in some way, either because they are different games or have different options of the same game or have different player counts of the same game. You don't increase the pool of potential players by having tables that are clones of each other. The pool of potential players is only increased when each table has a setting that is filtered by some people but not others in some way.

[Iam30yen]

What is the downside to making as many as you want? If you hit a limit, then you'll know what the limit is. As the FAQ says, once one table starts, you will be removed from all the others.

By the way, it only makes sense to make multiple tables that differ in some way, either because they are different games or have different options of the same game or have different player counts of the same game. You don't increase the pool of potential players by having tables that are clones of each other. The pool of potential players is only increased when each table has a setting that is filtered by some people but not others in some way.

I feel more anxious and scared than having any disadvantages by increasing the number of tables.
After becoming a premium member, I was able to set up more than three tables at the same time, but recently I started getting a 503 error.
I wanted to ask this question because I was worried and fearful that if I was putting a strain on the BGA server by increasing the number of tables too much, I would be BAN at worst.
Due to my personality, if I don't consult with them now, I'm likely to increase the number of tables in the future, and eventually reach the point where I have all the game tables on BGA, and because of this, I felt that there was a risk of BAN from BGA due to the server burden, so I posted this this time.

（私は卓を増やすことによってデメリットよりもむしろ不安や怖さを感じでいます。
プレミアム会員になって3つよりも多く同時にテーブルを立てられるようになりましたが、最近503エラーが出るようになりました。
もし私が卓を増やし過ぎたことによりBGAサーバーに対して負担をかける行為をやっているのであれば最悪BANされるのではないのかという不安や恐怖が強くなったため一度聞いてみたいと思いました。
私の性格上、今相談しておかなければ今後さらに複数立てる卓を増やし、最終的にはBGAにある全ゲーム卓を立てるところまで行きそうで、それが原因でサーバー負担によりBGAからBANされる危険を感じたため、今回投稿しました。）

[Meeplelowda]

What is the downside to making as many as you want? If you hit a limit, then you'll know what the limit is. As the FAQ says, once one table starts, you will be removed from all the others.

By the way, it only makes sense to make multiple tables that differ in some way, either because they are different games or have different options of the same game or have different player counts of the same game. You don't increase the pool of potential players by having tables that are clones of each other. The pool of potential players is only increased when each table has a setting that is filtered by some people but not others in some way.

I feel more anxious and scared than having any disadvantages by increasing the number of tables.
After becoming a premium member, I was able to set up more than three tables at the same time, but recently I started getting a 503 error.
I wanted to ask this question because I was worried and fearful that if I was putting a strain on the BGA server by increasing the number of tables too much, I would be BAN at worst.
Due to my personality, if I don't consult with them now, I'm likely to increase the number of tables in the future, and eventually reach the point where I have all the game tables on BGA, and because of this, I felt that there was a risk of BAN from BGA due to the server burden, so I posted this this time.

（私は卓を増やすことによってデメリットよりもむしろ不安や怖さを感じでいます。
プレミアム会員になって3つよりも多く同時にテーブルを立てられるようになりましたが、最近503エラーが出るようになりました。
もし私が卓を増やし過ぎたことによりBGAサーバーに対して負担をかける行為をやっているのであれば最悪BANされるのではないのかという不安や恐怖が強くなったため一度聞いてみたいと思いました。
私の性格上、今相談しておかなければ今後さらに複数立てる卓を増やし、最終的にはBGAにある全ゲーム卓を立てるところまで行きそうで、それが原因でサーバー負担によりBGAからBANされる危険を感じたため、今回投稿しました。）

You are not going to get banned for utilizing a feature they provide and advise you to use.

[Iam30yen]

Got it.
So, it seems like we can safely set up a large number of tables, but it's difficult to set up tables for each game, so basically we'd like to do it with fewer than 20 tables.

（分かった。
じゃあ安心して大量のテーブルを立てることが出来そうだけど、ゲーム毎に卓を立てるのが大変なので基本的には20テーブル未満でやっていきたいと思います。）

[Iam30yen]

Actually, I asked this question for the following reasons.

https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=160203

I submitted a bug report, but I'm not sure if it's really a bug, if the server detected an overload caused by having 10-15 tabs open at the same time and waiting, and if having tabs open at the same time and waiting is itself a violation of the terms of use.(However, if it was a violation of the terms of use, I should have received an email, but I haven't received one.)

If anyone knows the details, please leave a message here or in the bug report.
Also, I'd appreciate it if you could vote for the bug report.

（実はこの質問をしたのには下記の事情があったからなんだ
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=160203
バグ報告として投稿はしたけど実際のところ本当にバグなのか、10～15のタブを同時に出したまま待機したことによるサーバーの過負荷を感知されてIPブロックされたのか、それともタブを同時に出して待機すること自体が利用規約違反になっているのかよくわからないんだ（ただし、利用規約違反なら本来メールが届くはずだがメールは届いていない）

もし何か事情が知っている方がいたらここかバグ報告したところに何かメッセージを残してください。
または、バグ報告に対して投票していただけると幸いです）

[Meeplelowda]

Actually, I asked this question for the following reasons.

https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=160203

I submitted a bug report, but I'm not sure if it's really a bug, if the server detected an overload caused by having 10-15 tabs open at the same time and waiting, and if having tabs open at the same time and waiting is itself a violation of the terms of use.(However, if it was a violation of the terms of use, I should have received an email, but I haven't received one.)

If anyone knows the details, please leave a message here or in the bug report.
Also, I'd appreciate it if you could vote for the bug report.

（実はこの質問をしたのには下記の事情があったからなんだ
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=160203
バグ報告として投稿はしたけど実際のところ本当にバグなのか、10～15のタブを同時に出したまま待機したことによるサーバーの過負荷を感知されてIPブロックされたのか、それともタブを同時に出して待機すること自体が利用規約違反になっているのかよくわからないんだ（ただし、利用規約違反なら本来メールが届くはずだがメールは届いていない）

もし何か事情が知っている方がいたらここかバグ報告したところに何かメッセージを残してください。
または、バグ報告に対して投票していただけると幸いです）

You don't need a separate tab for each table. You should be starting games from the page in my signature. Once you configure a table and open it to other players, go back to that page in the same tab and configure another one, etc., etc. All of the tables you have created will be on the same page in one tab.

[Iam30yen]

You don't need a separate tab for each table. You should be starting games from the page in my signature. Once you configure a table and open it to other players, go back to that page in the same tab and configure another one, etc., etc. All of the tables you have created will be on the same page in one tab.

In other words,
open the tab for the game you want to play → set up the game and press start → close that tab
and repeat this as many times as you want to play the games.
It certainly was easy to reset the table when you had multiple tabs open for the games you wanted to play, but when one of them matched up, all the tabs moved at once. In particular, the sound effects when matching were loud, as they played for each tab open.

I'll try changing the way I set up multiple game tables from now on.
If my IP doesn't get blocked again, it will prove that there's a problem with the way I keep 10+ tabs open. On the other hand, if I still get IP blocked, then we'll know that the problem isn't a BGA bug, but a problem with my internet environment (e.g. my provider).

Thank you.

（つまり、
遊びたいゲームのタブを開く→ゲームの設定をしてスタートボタンを押す→そのタブを消す
これを遊びたいゲーム数だけ繰り返せばよいということですね。
確かに複数遊びたいゲームのタブを開いて待機していた時は卓の立て直し等は楽でしたが、どれかがマッチングした時全部のタブが一気に動きましたからねぇ。特にマッチング時のSEは開いたタブの数だけ鳴ってうるさかったです。
これからは複数のゲームの卓をたてるやり方を変えてみるよ。
もしこれで二度とIPがブロックされなくなったら10以上のタブを開いて待つやり方に問題があるということが証明されるし、逆にそれでもIPブロックされるようであればその原因はBGAのバグとかではなくてこちらのインターネット環境（例えばプロパイダ）に問題があるということが分かるね。
ありがとう。）