Which card triggers first?

[BurtLaimer]

I had a situation come up that I don't believe I've ever seen here before.

Player has Breaking News and Made In Lab. Player has 2 health and is 1 space away from spotlight zone for fame. Destruction is inconsequential.

At start of turn, Player buys The Party's Over w Made In Lab

Here's the problem:

Does the pull from Breaking News (Pull 1 * every time a card is purchased), or does The Party's Over (Monster in spotlight zone take 4 damage) trigger first? Further, would it have mattered (as in change the sequence of triggers) if Player bought TPO at end of turn assuming they didn't pull any during turn?

If the former, Player should take 0 damage and be in spotlight. If latter, Player would be at 0, thus triggering end of game.


What actually happened:

BN triggered first, Player took 4 damage going to 0, then game allowed Player to take full turn up until resolve. After resolve, game instantly ended even though Player rolled hearts.

So a rather confusing conclusion I must say.

What do you all think?

[jjthejetplane246]

Yeah interesting combo there. First off I don’t think it matters whether TPO is bought using MIAL or just a normal buy, triggers would still happen in the same order.

This is the problem with games that have a lot of unique actions/abilities as you have many interactions that the developers might miss when building the rule book. I don’t think the rules give us a clear idea as to what should happen here as there’s nothing definitive that defines if BN or TPO should trigger first.

If I was a judge in a tournament with this situation, I would say BN triggers first as its text says it happens “when you buy a card” which I would guess happens before the text of the bought card triggers. So then you would move 1 fame, TPO would deal 4 damage, and the game would immediately be over. I could see the argument that they trigger simultaneously and/or the player buying the card gets to decide the order of resolution. Again, the rules say nothing on this so unless Richard Garfield lets us know, I guess it’s a house rules sort of thing.

[itayor]

Interesting one. I feel like the game still lacks some explanations about card interactions, like the OG KOT has. I would expect the party to cause no damage here. But sounds like the damage was actully determined before breaking news resolved. I dont know if its a bug or intended, probably up to the publisher to rule here.

[Greg Hall]

Ok, the check for a spotlight zone win happens at the point the turn is completely over, correct?

Assuming that is correct, the player would be at zero health as soon as the party is over triggers, so the player is dead, which happens before the spotlight zone check would trigger.

I’m thinking it was confusing because BGA allowed the rolling to happen when it should have realized the player was already dead.