TM is not a best 2Players game :( (nt)

[jaymc1130]

Dude I am going to record a duce 7 bluff on BGA. New challenge: opponent has to be 250+ elo, you win a game with the unholy trinity and post the game link here for bragging rights. Starting today see who get it done first.

Do you even need to question who will eventually be first to do this if it’s extended as a challenge…? Lol.

We all know I’ll get bored and play it for 10 games in a row if bragging rights are on the line.

[RoyalRook]

You gotta be the 1st one to do it, 2nd and you are last. One more condition: you cant use ANY the holy trinity. Angels and Demons can't mix.

[SYushen]

3p is more fun. I'm not gonna play Arena if it's 2p. Let's see how many people will participate in Arena for 3p or 2p.

[UpbeatElephant]

3p is more fun. I'm not gonna play Arena if it's 2p. Let's see how many people will participate in Arena for 3p or 2p.

https://boardgamearena.com/halloffame?g ... &season=21

https://boardgamearena.com/halloffame?g ... &season=20

Season 21 (2p): 98966 games played

Season 20 (3p): 39545 games played

[kchillin]

Let's see how many people will participate in Arena for 3p or 2p.

2p Arena is far more popular

[jaymc1130]

Let's see how many people will participate in Arena for 3p or 2p.

2p Arena is far more popular

I still say I can’t see a reason why arena doesn’t have 2p, 3p, and 4p brackets each season. It only logical.

[Corvus Mortis]

Earth Cata would be my 2nd pick, but card draw > discount. I’ve had plenty of games of losing w earth cata gen 1 or beating someone who plays earth cata gen 1. I don’t think I’ve ever lost a single game hu where I’ve started w AI.

Ecozone is one of my fave cards too!

No one is claiming that AI isn’t a strong card, just that it’s overrated by weaker players. If you’ve never lost a game with AI in your opener, you haven’t played enough games — I certainly have. I also have data showing card win rates when they are present in your opening hand. Even in this case, AI Central’s win rates aren’t among the best. It’s a boom-or-bust card, it can sometimes be hard to get down, and sans discounts can result in you being too slow to overcome an effective rush. It’s a card I’m very happy to see in my opener, but not the single most busted card in the game and often weaker than Mars U even among draw cards. For example, after gen 6, AI can have too little time to pay off, where Mars U can still be quite playable. I’ve seen late game sequences where Mars U can still draw 5+ cards even when played at the very end of the game.

You don’t have to believe what other people tell you, but it does seem strange to be so overconfident. 700+ players aren’t always right about everything, but certainly their intuitions about this game are probably more informative than people rated 200+ points below them.

[RoyalRook]

AI leaves us wide open for cash rush since we won't be back online for couple gens after playing AI. On the other hand, Mars U has no weakness, it powers up your hand immediately and reward our earlier mistakes by cycling out our dead cards.

Against certain players you are far better off taking big asteroid than AI.

[BlackHatGuy]

When we say "X card is better than Y card" what we're really saying is "X card will win you more games".

That's what "better" means.

How do we know which players are better at winning games? ELO. That's what ELO *is*.

So yeah. When the question is "which card is better". And a 500 ELO and 800 ELO player have different opinions, the 800 ELO player is almost always going to be right. Because if they were wrong about which cards are best for winning games, they wouldn't have made it to 800 in the first place.

[primrose1234]

P.s. Micro Mill and Microorganisms are pretty legit on Elysium, check out my in progress game 3 with anthracite, both cards may get played. I already played zero day Micro Mill. Mystic Rook baby, although no way I am doing unholy trinity against anthracite.

I think in general that Micro Mills deserves a little bit more love. Happy to see that it worked in your game! The ratio is 6 cash / 1 Heat prod which is the same for import of advanced GHG without rebates. Yet i see an unrebated advanced GHG more often than micromills. It can support a rush strategy if you have some money to spare.
Also, if you compare GHG factory to carbonate processing: Its 5 cash / heat prod difference, so if you just have RO, micro mills does the same.

Microorganisms is still a lot stronger i think, also for the science tag.