Time limit !!

[Alfre44]

Did somebody ever loose because of the time limit ? (yes, today i got my firts during a arene match)
Not because of IRL bad match up but an end game with many cards and an adversery that use it too win !!

5 seconds per move to do is not always feasable when you are running out of time and doing the overdrive.

I do anderstand that a time limit is a must, can't rest waiting all day but that must be only for inactivity and not a end-game with 15 cards !

What do you think of this ?

[Jellby]

You do not have to use all cards, do you? If your strategy requires using more stuff than you actually have time to do... it sounds like a losing strategy. Either change it or play with slower time settings.

[Alfre44]

Sure you can choose to not use all your cards or only use them and to not do "overdrive" but did'nt see the point when you have more ressource than needed to keep using your gain cards for gain.

Sometime it is a strategic choice to not use all the cards but that was not a good choise for me on the game, if you want go see it it was my game against "Learn to fly" of today.

The fact is that, when you are out of time, the game allow our adversary to kick you out after 20, 10 or 5 seconds if you didn't do your move. It seem to me that decreasing the time to 5 seconds even if the move is done is not a good feature.

[Kuijpie]

You do not have to use all cards, do you? If your strategy requires using more stuff than you actually have time to do... it sounds like a losing strategy. Either change it or play with slower time settings.

Edit: just checked your profile, you've played tactile twice. With that little experience you might want to avoid arguing with the #5 in the game ranking.

From a strategy point of view - yes, you do. Sometimes you might not use one of your cards, but you always want to maximize your turn, and if you don't that means a big advantage to your opponent.

I have only played this game live a few times, and I think it does not work well live and play only turn based now. For beginners it is probably ok to play live, but when you get to a higher level and the game becomes more strategical with end games with many cards doing a turn within a few minutes becomes very challenging.

[visuseast]

I ran into this issue too, Here is how I fixed it (mostly) : for live arena match, I set the game speed to "Slow" and turn off flexibility options.

[Kuijpie]

Did somebody ever loose because of the time limit ? (yes, today i got my firts during a arene match)
Not because of IRL bad match up but an end game with many cards and an adversery that use it too win !!

5 seconds per move to do is not always feasable when you are running out of time and doing the overdrive.

I do anderstand that a time limit is a must, can't rest waiting all day but that must be only for inactivity and not a end-game with 15 cards !

What do you think of this ?

I think, especially in arena, it is very unfair to claim victory by time limit if it is clear your opponent is actively playing. But your opponent was in his right to do so as that is how this site works. As said above, I think at 'expert' level this game is just not suited for live play because of this.

[Nico]

I ran into this issue too, Here is how I fixed it (mostly) : for live arena match, I set the game speed to "Slow" and turn off flexibility options.

Agreed. This is why I have so many time warnings. I was kicked out of some games earlier on that I had clear advantages before I learned my lesson. I still like real-time because it forces you to be reactive and instinctive. Playing "slow" is much more feasible, although it still can be a challenge in long, late-game situations with numerous cards. In those situations, forcing a game end for an opponent just 1-2 mins over time is in bad taste / poor etiquette if you understand that the decisions get more complex as the game goes on.

[Jellby]

just checked your profile, you've played tactile twice. With that little experience you might want to avoid arguing with the #5 in the game ranking.

No, because I'm not talking about specific strategy for this game. Time constraints are part of the rules for every game in BGA, and part of a good strategy for every game is making sure you have time to plan and perform your moves. Could the game or BGA behave different? Probably. Could your opponents behave differently? Sure. But if you think the time's too short, you can always play in slower settings or turn-based. Or if you think there's a bug in time handling, or have a suggestion for the developer, use https://boardgamearena.com/bugs?game=2319

[Kuijpie]

just checked your profile, you've played tactile twice. With that little experience you might want to avoid arguing with the #5 in the game ranking.

No, because I'm not talking about specific strategy for this game. Time constraints are part of the rules for every game in BGA, and part of a good strategy for every game is making sure you have time to plan and perform your moves. Could the game or BGA behave different? Probably. Could your opponents behave differently? Sure. But if you think the time's too short, you can always play in slower settings or turn-based. Or if you think there's a bug in time handling, or have a suggestion for the developer, use https://boardgamearena.com/bugs?game=2319

But this topic is specific about this game, and in this game the time needed per turn increases exponentially. In a high level endgame you can end up with 15+ cards and buying 2-3 cards each turn. Even if you would not have to think at all, with the way time is managed in live games on BGA it is just not feasible to stay within time limits.
If I want to play a strategic game by just moving pieces as quickly as possible to try to beat my opponent on time I would play bullet chess, that should not be the point of this game.
I guess a way to manage time for this game is to give increment after each action, instead of after a complete turn (so if you would play 12 cards and 2 base action that is 14x the time increment in that turn). That would make much more sense for this game.

[Alfre44]

Thanks all for your reply, got it on slow and blocked for now.

Also i dit put a sugestion, we will see