Deer/Wolf is close to making me quit

[Doulos_]

Spent a portion of the game flushing out all the butterflies and deer I could from my opponent, but did not see one wolf the entire time. Opponent still draws 5 deer, 3 wolves, and enough hoofed cards to absolutely curb stomp me. There is no way this synergy is balanced and 3/4 people I play against just play deer/wolf. It is getting so old and repetitive. It so very needs to get nerfed. When I see my opponents play a deer in the beginning of the game, all I can do is hope they do not draw more or that I can flush them, if not I know for certain I am done for. Very discouraging.

[Doulos_]

And yes, I myself could just play deer/wolf, but that is besides the point. Besides, it feels so cheap and repetitive.

[cigma]

And yes, I myself could just play deer/wolf, but that is besides the point. Besides, it feels so cheap and repetitive.

Have you tried the expansions? Have you tried Forest Shuffle: Dartmoor? (That's the same game mechanics with some twists and more balanced in my view.)

[nagabenang]

lol agree, I'm playing in tournament and all the wins features wolf+deer combo. if you don't have them, you'll (almost) certainly lose.
dartmoor is more balanced but has owl+bat combo which is kind of the same but cheaper.

[loungelizard24]

Just play against me then, out of 100 games I’ve never touched deer, lynx or wolves. (Only the bison if I’m getting a lot of beech trees) Yes I know not going that route means I lose 90 percent of the time. But just because everyone else jumps off a bridge doesn’t mean I should. The deer and wolf completely breaks the game. They should of limited the initial amount of each only 2 deer of each species and only 3 wolves would of made a 2 player game more bearable because then you might only see a deer or 2 the whole game. Which is totally fair, because there’s no guarantee you’ll see a single tiger salamander or even stag beetle or even a gnat in a 2 player game. For me if I have to go the same route as everyone else then it’s no longer a game. I want to go my own way and have a chance of winning. Thankfully dartmoor fixes this problem, there’s not a single strategy that’s overpowered, a player going heavy bats can go toe to toe with a player going heavy plants. Ect.

So after a few rounds of forest shuffle I hop on over to dartmoor, a much more fair competition. The only thing keeping me around here, is I do like a lot of the different animals and plants, and dartmoor doesn’t have as many varieties, Yet.