Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

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Timac2066
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Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

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Hello all!
In this game, I had 4 compasses, one tablet, and two green buildings to choose. The bot added me +2 compasses, 6 pcs in total. There should be 6*6+1=37 points, but I received only 26 pts. What's the reason?
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Timac2066
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Re: Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

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This issue has repeated. I had 4 green cogs and a Scientific guild card which provided me a 5th cog... But final scoring is 4*4+1=17 points instead of the expected 5*5+1=26 points. I suppose the Scientific Guild card doesn't work
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Andrei3009
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Re: Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

Post by Andrei3009 »

It's a bit confusing but scientists guild counted as guild and not as greed card. You got 9 points from guilds, but decorators giving you 0.

17 on green cards plus 9 on guild cards is precisely 26.
Timac2066
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Re: Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

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Andrei3009 wrote: 05 August 2025, 21:55 It's a bit confusing but scientists guild counted as guild and not as greed card. You got 9 points from guilds, but decorators giving you 0.

17 on green cards plus 9 on guild cards is precisely 26.
Thank you for the clear explanation! I've figured it out now. Yes, it was a bit confusing
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6element
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Re: Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

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Scientists Guild used to be counted as Green (which IMHO is more obvious / arguably more correct), but enough folks were confused / complained, so now points from Scientists Guild are counted as Purple.
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6element
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Re: Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

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Interestingly enough, in case of two wildcards indeed there seems to be a bug. Specifically in https://boardgamearena.com/table?table=714104841

At the end of the game the science combination is 4/2/1 and 2 wildcards. Applying wildcards to make it 5/2/2 would lead to 47 points. Applying them as 6/2/1 would be 48 points which is greater, and the total score for green and purple is indeed 48 (correct).

The problem is that purple in this case would be either 9 or 11, not 10 displayed at the end (10 is incorrect).

Not a big deal, but a bug for sure.
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jovial-cat492
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Re: Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

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that is super confusing i just came here to say its bugged. its part of the science points calculation why would you ever put it into guilds.
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konsul
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Re: Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

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jovial-cat492 wrote: 20 August 2025, 12:37 that is super confusing i just came here to say its bugged. its part of the science points calculation why would you ever put it into guilds.
I can think of one reason: when playing with the Edifice expansion, the Agora edifice bonus doubles one of the points of your guilds. In order to double it, you need to have points allocated to the guild in the first place. In case of the science guild there would be nothing to double if its scoring was put in the science category. The only other way out I can think of would be to give the player another science symbol for the Agora.
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6element
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Re: Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

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Doubling "points" from scientific guild would actually be a bug. Scientific guild gives a symbol of your choice. It doesn't give points directly.

So doubling it would give you two symbols (potentially different). "At the end of the game, you may apply the effect of one Purple card in your City a second time." implies exactly that.
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swibat
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Re: Incorrect count of SCIENCE buildings

Post by swibat »

Wow thank you guys (I know I'm late) : I would never have considered applying agora to the scientists guild. When I played edifice IRL, I don't know, this specific guild just turned green in my brain. Turns out the green player would not have enough points !
It's important because agora seems to be the only real green project available (which is logical given the penalty), maybe alongside with the "forum" one (I don't know its proper name in english, it's "Manufacture" in french), but maybe not cause it would probably come too late.
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