Is tournament agenda info accurate?

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SpiteAndMalice
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Is tournament agenda info accurate?

Post by SpiteAndMalice »

Is there currently a bug with tournament agenda info, or am I misunderstanding it?

Upon joining this tournament https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=490265 , I see agenda info:

Tomorrow at 23:00: Heat: Pedal to the Metal Legends Legend one (Tournament draw + 22 matches)

The tournament currently has 93 players registered. The maximum number is 400, there will be 6 players taking part in each match, 1 player qualifies from each match.

If matches were created based on the tournament being full then:
1st round 400/6 = 66.7 (so 67 for the tournament with one or two games running with fewer players).
2nd round 67/6 = 11.2 (so 12 with a couple of games running with fewer players again)
3rd round 12/6 = 2 (so 2 matches).
Final 2/6 = 0.3 (so 1 match)
Total matches: 67+12+2+1 = 82


93/6 = 15.5 (so 16 for the tournament with one or two games running with fewer players)
2nd round 16/6 = 2.7 (so 3 with a couple of games running with fewer players again)
Final 3/6 = 0.5 (so 1 match)
Total matches: 16+3+1 = 20

In neither case does the total number of matches add up to 22. :?
FSKFSK
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Re: Is tournament agenda info accurate?

Post by FSKFSK »

It looks like a bug in the calculation. "22 matches" is supposed to be the maximum number of rounds the tournament could last. However, as you pointed out, at least 3/4 of the field will be eliminated each round, which means it can never last 22 rounds.

For example, if it was 32 people and single elimination, it would be "5 matches", the most you could play if you won every game and made it to the final. It looks like it isn't calculating it correctly for multiplayer elimination.
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Mathew5000
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Re: Is tournament agenda info accurate?

Post by Mathew5000 »

Typically, after a tournament (of type multiplayer elimination) begins, the "Tournament agenda" section of the page is blank; for example: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=486502

However, the tournament agenda section of an ongoing tournament can have some content if the match dates were specifically configured by the tournament host; for example: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=486502

The number of matches listed in parentheses in the tournament agenda is not accurate, even nonsensical.

I am curious if anyone can figure out how the BGA software came up with "22 matches" in the tournament OP linked to (https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=490265), and does it change as more players register? A few other examples:

• 8 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=490151
• 6 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=437538
• 22 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=437544
• 22 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=437545
• 7 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=424319
• 7 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=443064
• 9 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=364428
• 13 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=490526
• 13 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=492039
• 6 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=477088
• 17 matches: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=492040
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