Why was my table automatically closed for being abandoned when it definitely wasn't abandoned?

[FrankJones]

At the risk of sounding like a jerk ...

Just make a move once every 34 days ?

My apologies if I come across like a jerk.

[BarnardsStar]

At the risk of sounding like a jerk ...

Just make a move once every 34 days ?

My apologies if I come across like a jerk.

I think the general conclusion, or at least a strong contender for such, is that BGA only counts it as a “turn” when it becomes a new players turn. Which never happens in solo games.

[FrankJones]

AH.

Okay, then..

If playing a solo game...

Make one move very 34 days ?

This cannot be that difficult ???

Let me rephrase.

If it's not possible to make a move in a solo game once every 34 days, then, who the heck cares if the game gets cancelled ???

[BarnardsStar]

What I’m saying is, the entire game is seen as a single turn. Because it never becomes anybody else’s turn.

That said, the notion of a solo game taking more than a month in toto is foreign to me, but that just means this isn’t my problem.

[nik592]

If it's not possible to make a move in a solo game once every 34 days, then, who the heck cares if the game gets cancelled ???

They are making moves. The last move made by the OP in this thread was a day or two before their game was cancelled. The theory is that the code is looking for the switch between players to define if a game is active. But in a solo game, there is no switching.

[SquireKeladry]

We can launch a whole detective game about these oddities on BGA.

Who can find out quickest that:
- Automatically closed games show a duration of 35 days even though in reality they close only after 41 days since last activity (and the FAQ says 40 days).
- The game type of friendly-mode games shows "real-time" even if it was created in the turn-based lobby.
- Ties in multi-elimination games are resolved by the lower player-id number ("oldest account advances")
- Ties in the Arena ranking are resolved by who has finished the last game (normal mode or arena mode).
- Number of trophies shown on profile page is different to the number shown on the trophies page.
Bonus points: How to find out who gave me a red thumb?

To name a few... (To be clear, I take it with humor, it is relatively normal that web services like BGA have such things.)

The many quirks of a website that is has been updated bit by bit over the course of many years, presumably also always on a tight budget.

I knew some of these oddities - not counting the one I discovered yesterday - but a few of them were new to me. I can make a guess at the red thumb one because I know that you can only get a full list of the people you given red thumbs too by looking at the website code. Is this also the answer for how find out who has given you a red thumb?

AH.

Okay, then..

If playing a solo game...

Make one move very 34 days ?

This cannot be that difficult ???

Let me rephrase.

If it's not possible to make a move in a solo game once every 34 days, then, who the heck cares if the game gets cancelled ???

It seems like you've misunderstood the issue under discussion. Making moves in a solo game doesn't change when the system will treat the game as abandoned at all. That only works for multiplayer games.

Admittedly it's definitely a niche user case. I know other people who use BGA to play solo games but I don't think any of them are playing their solo games gradually over the course of weeks like I normally do. But now I know to be more mindful of when the 41 day deadline is approaching - I've already sat down with a calendar and worked out when the abandonment deadline will be for my other games in progress.

[Jellby]

Making moves in a solo game doesn't change when the system will treat the game as abandoned at all.

I don't think that's confirmed. That's what I suggested could be happening, but it could be something else. Even if that's the case, it could still be game-dependent. I believe there are some wargames where you can play a solo campaign, the developer may have done something different for them. Or maybe they have the same issue.

[SquireKeladry]

Making moves in a solo game doesn't change when the system will treat the game as abandoned at all.

I don't think that's confirmed. That's what I suggested could be happening, but it could be something else. Even if that's the case, it could still be game-dependent. I believe there are some wargames where you can play a solo campaign, the developer may have done something different for them. Or maybe they have the same issue.

Well, unless BGA weighs in on this discussion we can't be certain about any of this.

However, I can confirm that it's not just AFFO where solo games are considered abandoned at 41 days regardless of whether any moves were made in the game recently or not. I've looked at abandoned solo tables for 5 different games - I know this is only a small percentage of all the solo games available on BGA but it's not easy to find tables that were closed by BGA for being abandoned. Which wargames have solo campaigns? If you have a link for a table that was closed by BGA for being abandoned for one of those games, we could take a look.

[BarnardsStar]

I guess we just have to say that playing a super slow solo game of AFFO is really a case of FAFO.

Thank, you, I’m here all week!

[FrankJones]

If it's not possible to make a move in a solo game once every 34 days, then, who the heck cares if the game gets cancelled ???

They are making moves. The last move made by the OP in this thread was a day or two before their game was cancelled. The theory is that the code is looking for the switch between players to define if a game is active. But in a solo game, there is no switching.

Ah, I see. My apologies, I was rather tired last night and was misunderstanding the problem.

I'm guessing that maybe BGA just doesn't want too many long-running solo games clogging up the servers, so there is a hard limit of 34 or 35 or 40 days for a solo game to be finished?

IF that's the case, I wish they would add some clarifying information at the start of the solo game making this fact clear to everyone, otherwise there will be ongoing confusion.