New Tournament Pages are here: Better, Faster, and Mobile-Friendly!

[Jape2020]

OK.... they 'fixed' the rolling tourney rankings for round robin, restoring useful intel like place, games played, etc — AND IT'S STILL JUST AS DIFFICULT TO READ. There are over 70 players in each group in the biggest tournament I'm currently in, meaning you have to click and/or scroll repeatedly to load all the names — and then you have to scroll back up to remind yourself which column is which data point.

Oh AND the text is smaller? I'm going snowblind in that sea of white screen surrounding the small boxes. #fail

[sdmartinca]

Tie-breakers are back! Check the patchnotes here: https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... 89#p244289

As mentioned before, we are still looking into some of the points that your raised. We'll keep you posted.

Thanks! Note that Tiebreak standings need correcting now for Swiss tournaments. TBs when points the same should be:
1. opponents points
2. opponents ELO avg

Right now the standings are ordered the other way around so they will be incorrect. See: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?i ... rogression for an example.

[Meeplelowda]

Tie-breakers are back! Check the patchnotes here: https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... 89#p244289

As mentioned before, we are still looking into some of the points that your raised. We'll keep you posted.

Thanks! Note that Tiebreak standings need correcting now for Swiss tournaments. TBs when points the same should be:
1. opponents points
2. opponents ELO avg

Right now the standings are ordered the other way around so they will be incorrect. See: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?i ... rogression for an example.

The standings are correct, they are just displaying the tiebreaker criteria in an unintuitive order. They are not applying them in the wrong order.

If they were really ranking them by average opponent's Elo first, then the player currently in 5th place with 6 points and average opponent's Elo of 540 would be ranked ahead of the player currently in 2nd place with 8 points and average opponent's Elo of 406. But that's not the case. Everyone at the top of the standings has 8 points. And among those, they are sorted in descending order by average opponent's Elo, as they should be.

[sdmartinca]

Tie-breakers are back! Check the patchnotes here: https://boardgamearena.com/forum/viewto ... 89#p244289

As mentioned before, we are still looking into some of the points that your raised. We'll keep you posted.

Thanks! Note that Tiebreak standings need correcting now for Swiss tournaments. TBs when points the same should be:
1. opponents points
2. opponents ELO avg

Right now the standings are ordered the other way around so they will be incorrect. See: https://boardgamearena.com/tournament?i ... rogression for an example.

The standings are correct, they are just displaying the tiebreaker criteria in an unintuitive order. They are not applying them in the wrong order.

If they were really ranking them by average opponent's Elo first, then the player currently in 5th place with 6 points and average opponent's Elo of 540 would be ranked ahead of the player currently in 2nd place with 8 points and average opponent's Elo of 406. But that's not the case. Everyone at the top of the standings has 8 points. And among those, they are sorted in descending order by average opponent's Elo, as they should be.

If you look at the top-4 (all tied for the lead with 8 points), Raxxax is ranked first. If avg ELO is the 2nd TB, that would be correct (since his avg opponent ELO is highest with 536). However, I believe marvely should be ranked first (currently in third) since his opponents-points is 10 .. which is higher than Raxxax & Spitzbueb who are at 8. At least that is the way things were ranked in the previous versions of this tournament.

[Meeplelowda]

If you look at the top-4 (all tied for the lead with 8 points), Raxxax is ranked first. If avg ELO is the 2nd TB, that would be correct (since his avg opponent ELO is highest with 536). However, I believe marvely should be ranked first (currently in third) since his opponents-points is 10 .. which is higher than Raxxax & Spitzbueb who are at 8. At least that is the way things were ranked in the previous versions of this tournament.

You are absolutely right. I had confused two of the columns.

Has anyone submitted this bug yet? I couldn't find it, but I don't want to create a duplicate if it has been posted already.

[dschingis27]

I suppose that BGA reads this thread, so I suppose they know already about the tiebreaker problem.

But just be sure, I made a bug report:
https://boardgamearena.com/bug?id=207626

[Meeplelowda]

so I suppose they know already about the tiebreaker problem.

They knew about it, tried to fix it, and did it incorrectly. So there still needs to be a bug report to say the "fix" is still wrong. So thanks for creating one.

[ssmoku]

Just another vote to bring invites back. Just like blockmonoid previously suggested, you can later add a profile feature to block invites on the user level.

[TheMeanGirl]

No sé cómo será ahora, ya que no jugaba torneos desde hace 1 año o así debido a que sólo juego en móvil. Pero desde pc crear torneos era fácil e intuitivo, nada de cómo un Eurogame como dicen aquí. Cambiad lo que queráis, pero no estoy segura de si la gente estaba demandando esto

[kspttw]

First of all, the new tournament pages are a big change for us, and for you. We understand it may not please everyone.

That being said, thank you for all the feedback.

We won't be able to answer all your concerns today as we need to look deeper into a lot of them. But here are a few things I can share with you already:

• The time zone issue is known and should be fixed soon.
• Tie breakers and other missing infos for Round Robin and Swiss are known issues and should be fixed soon.

You brought up other points that we will discuss internally, such as the recommanded tournaments section, scrolling on mobile or additional filters. Keep in mind that discussing the examples above does not mean it will be changed, but they are things we want to review.

Regarding the invite system as it was before, we noticed some misuse with collateral issues. This needed to be changed. We are looking into a solution that would allow tournament creators to have an improved tool addressing this issue.

I'll keep monitoring your feedback and will answer when possible.

Well, now we see that BGA use tie-breakers in different order, than earlier. It uses first average elo of opponents, and it was first average points of opponents:

https://prnt.sc/XlnSrJxk7YKb

Aditionally, I think it would be better to see from the left: place, points, tie-brakers (staring from fisrt tie-breaker)