Confusing Stuff

[Arpad 12345]

There is a card scoring what confuses me. The woodpecker effect says you gain 10 points IF NO OTHER FOREST HAS MORE TREES. This doesn t makes sense for me at all. As i know a player can have one single forest, the total of his playes cards in front of him. Then what other forest means? And how is possible that a forest to not have trees?

[DubFederalis]

It's referring to other players' forests. You need to have equal to or more than the other players.

[Suoivax]

There is a card scoring what confuses me. The woodpecker effect says you gain 10 points IF NO OTHER FOREST HAS MORE TREES. This doesn t makes sense for me at all. As i know a player can have one single forest, the total of his playes cards in front of him. Then what other forest means? And how is possible that a forest to not have trees?

A player only has one forest, yes. But there are other players.

[cigma]

As a side comment: Please note that a Violet Carpenter Bee played at a tree increases the number of trees by 1 for the Woodpecker scoring. Some people don't recognize this.

[Arpad 12345]

Thanks guys 4 the help.

[lordhavoc306]

As a side comment: Please note that a Violet Carpenter Bee played at a tree increases the number of trees by 1 for the Woodpecker scoring. Some people don't recognize this.

thx for pointing out. wasn't aware of that. probably not many games where this is relevant, but still interesting.

[lordhavoc306]

this also applies for moss. you can have 9 trees + 1 bee and score 10 points for moss.

imho this is incosistent, since the bee does not count as an additional tree for red deer and sycamore. so there are some cards/species where this applies and some others where it doesn't apply...

[Jontia]

this also applies for moss. you can have 9 trees + 1 bee and score 10 points for moss.

imho this is incosistent, since the bee does not count as an additional tree for red deer and sycamore. so there are some cards/species where this applies and some others where it doesn't apply...

Isn't this caused by the short reminder text rather than inconsistency? The Carpenter Bee isn't another instance of the tree, it is a modifier for the set count.

Effect: Whenever the number of trees of a certain species is required, each Violet Carpenter Bee
at a tree of that species increases that number by 1. There are only five cards for which the Violet
Carpenter Bee is relevant at all:
• Beech: Beeches do not score points unless you have at least 4 of them. For instance, 3 Beeches
and a Violet Carpenter Bee at one of them count as 4 Beeches. Consequently, the 3 Beeches score
5 points each, for a total of 15 points (see Beech). You do not score 5 points for the Violet Carpenter
Bee, because it is no Beech.
• Horse Chestnut: Horse Chestnuts form a set whose value depends on the total number of Horse
Chestnuts in your forest; a Violet Carpenter Bee at a Horse Chestnut increases that value. For
instance, 2 Horse Chestnuts and a Violet Carpenter Bee at each of them score 16 points (because
you count 4 Horse Chestnuts); without the Violet Carpenter Bees, the set would score only 4 points
(see Horse Chestnut).
• Linden Trees: Linden Trees score 3  points each (instead of 1  point each) if you have the most;
Violet Carpenter Bees can help you with that.
Example:Anna has 3 Linden Trees, Boris has 2 Linden Trees and Caro 2 Linden Trees with 2 Violet Carpenter Bees
at them. Caro counts 4 Linden Trees and has therefore the most. Consequently, Anna scores 3 points for Linden
Trees, Boris 2 points, and Caro 2x3=6 points. The Violet Carpenter Bees do not score additional points, because
they are no Linden Trees, but they have helped Caro score more points for her Linden Trees.
• Great Spotted Woodpecker and Moss: The values of these cards depend on the total number of
trees in your forest; your Violet Carpenter Bees increase that number.

[Suoivax]

this also applies for moss. you can have 9 trees + 1 bee and score 10 points for moss.

imho this is incosistent, since the bee does not count as an additional tree for red deer and sycamore. so there are some cards/species where this applies and some others where it doesn't apply...

It's all in how it's worded. The bee doesn't count as an additional actual physical tree CARD, it simply adds +1 when counting "how many chestnuts do I have?"

The deer are looking for actual icons. The bee doesn't add icons.